I would like to know what you are basing your statement on. How many of these churches have you been too.
Every church that I have been too, I am Lutheran, has been this way. -----Original Message----- From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 4:04 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative Well, if Jesus can accept Mary Magdalen, I do believe its what a good Christian would do (from an outsiders point of view). However, remember that the majority of churches AREN'T like this. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 12:46 PM Subject: RE: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > In fact, our pastor is waiting for the day when a motorcycle gang, his > running joke on the subject, pulls into the lot for Church on Sunday. > And shame on us if we turn them away as that is not what Jesus or God > would do. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Schmidt > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 3:44 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > Yes. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 3:33 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > Ok, so if I show up next week dressed for a black mass I'd be accepted. > > larry > > -- > Larry C. Lyons > ColdFusion/Web Developer > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > EBStor.com > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > tel: (703) 393-7930 > fax: (703) 393-2659 > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > http://www.pacel.com > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > -- > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 4:27 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > > > Never said they did. Just that we will accept everyone and anyone who > > wishes to attend. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 3:29 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > But the point is that churches dont' represent everyone > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 12:12 PM > > Subject: RE: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > > > > Larry, > > > > > > Not sure which Church you go to, but at our church, we welcome all > > > walks. We don't shun them. We hope that if they come to Church God > > can > > > have a positive effect on their life, but we would never > > refuse them. > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 3:09 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > > > Because you dislike who represents you, you think that all social > > > funding > > > should be withdrawn? Religious groups have an extra agenda above and > > > beyond > > > the overt mission. It would be all to easy for a group to say, for > > > instance, > > > because you are from (insert disliked group here) either > > you repent of > > > your > > > evil ways or else (no food, no shelter etc). Moreover there is far > > less > > > independent oversight and control over private religious > > groups doing > > > social > > > work than what you have with public agencies. The recent > > scandals in > > > the > > > catholic churches in the US and the church supported residential > > schools > > > in > > > Canada are very good examples of why that independent oversight is > > > needed. > > > > > > larry > > > > > > -- > > > Larry C. Lyons > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > > EBStor.com > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > > http://www.pacel.com > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > > -- > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 4:02 PM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess this difference comes down to who we fell represents > > > > our society. I do not think our elected officials and > > > > appointed governement employees represent our society. > > > > > > > > Russel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Beth F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Date: 2002/06/18 Tue PM 03:54:07 EDT > > > > > To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, my reading on Catholic Christian doctorine says > > > > it is our > > > > > responsibility. I forget the exact reference, but I think > > > > it is the Gospel > > > > > of >St. John. "What you do for the least of your brothers, > > > > you do for me." > > > > > > > > > > I don't mean it that way - I mean that its our society's > > > > responsbility to > > > > > take care of our society whether or not religious groups do > > > > as well. We > > > > > can't just wash our hands of the poor and expect someone > > > > else to fix the > > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > > > I use the old adage "Give a man a fish and you feed him > > > > for a day. teach a > > > > > man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime." to guide > > myself and > > my > > > > > activities. I personally feel that the way I am called to > > > > fight poverty is > > > > > in line with that adage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This does not preclude our society as a whole giving the > > > > fishing pole as > > > > > opposed to religious groups. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
