they are entitled to vote

what percentage of people in the US elect their own religious leader?

Lets take an impromptu poll:

I do NOT elect a religious leader
Kevin DOES elect a religious leader


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 12:33 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative


> Except for the large part of the population that doesn't vote?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 3:36 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative
>
> you are one church
> how many people in the country are not represented by churches with
> elected
> officials.
> Most.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 12:27 PM
> Subject: RE: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative
>
>
> > Funny....we as a congregation vote to decide who our Pastor is.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 3:30 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative
> >
> > The thing thats so great about government is that you get to vote who
> is
> > in
> > it.  You are welcome to vote in folks who choose to have less "bloat"
> > At church you dont' get to vote.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 12:15 PM
> > Subject: RE: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative
> >
> >
> > > Sure that's just what we need another bloated government program.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 3:09 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative
> > >
> > > Because you dislike who represents you, you think that all social
> > > funding
> > > should be withdrawn? Religious groups have an extra agenda above and
> > > beyond
> > > the overt mission. It would be all to easy for a group to say, for
> > > instance,
> > > because you are from (insert disliked group here) either you repent
> of
> > > your
> > > evil ways or else (no food, no shelter etc). Moreover there is far
> > less
> > > independent oversight and control over private religious groups
> doing
> > > social
> > > work than what you have with  public agencies. The recent scandals
> in
> > > the
> > > catholic churches in the US and the church supported residential
> > schools
> > > in
> > > Canada are very good examples of why that independent oversight is
> > > needed.
> > >
> > > larry
> > >
> > > --
> > > Larry C. Lyons
> > > ColdFusion/Web Developer
> > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
> > > EBStor.com
> > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
> > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
> > > tel:   (703) 393-7930
> > > fax:   (703) 393-2659
> > > Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
> > >        http://www.pacel.com
> > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> > > --
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 4:02 PM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I guess this difference comes down to who we fell represents
> > > > our society.  I do not think our elected officials and
> > > > appointed governement employees represent our society.
> > > >
> > > > Russel
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: "Beth F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Date: 2002/06/18 Tue PM 03:54:07 EDT
> > > > > To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative
> > > > >
> > > > > > Actually, my reading on Catholic Christian doctorine says
> > > > it is our
> > > > > responsibility.  I forget the exact reference, but I think
> > > > it is the Gospel
> > > > > of >St. John.  "What you do for the least of your brothers,
> > > > you do for me."
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't mean it that way - I mean that its our society's
> > > > responsbility to
> > > > > take care of our society whether or not religious groups do
> > > > as well.  We
> > > > > can't just wash our hands of the poor and expect someone
> > > > else to fix the
> > > > > problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > > I use the old adage "Give a man a fish and you feed him
> > > > for a day. teach a
> > > > > man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime." to guide myself
> and
> > my
> > > > > activities.  I personally feel that the way I am called to
> > > > fight poverty is
> > > > > in line with that adage.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This does not preclude our society as a whole giving the
> > > > fishing pole as
> > > > > opposed to religious groups.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 
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