how about if we spend our tax dollars in preventing abuse. -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel: (703) 393-7930 fax: (703) 393-2659 Web: http://www.ebstor.com http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. --
> -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 4:45 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > So we should waste tax dollars on the chance that an abuse might be > uncovered quicker, if at all? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 3:38 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > How long though before it gets uncovered? In the public > sector at least > there is a reasonable chance that abuse would be uncovered. Given the > same > type of abuse in a private closed hierarchy it is far less likely that > such > would be uncovered. > > larry > > -- > Larry C. Lyons > ColdFusion/Web Developer > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > EBStor.com > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > tel: (703) 393-7930 > fax: (703) 393-2659 > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > http://www.pacel.com > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > -- > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 4:33 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > > > I don't think so. You have the same type of abuse ( not > literally) in > > the government and there is plenty of oversight. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 3:30 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > And if there is no independent oversight, how many more people get > > abused by > > those who can hide in the hierarchy. By having an independent > > ombudsman > > you > > the potential of stopping that sort of abuse. > > > > -- > > Larry C. Lyons > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > EBStor.com > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > http://www.pacel.com > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > -- > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 4:15 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > > > > > > Sure that's just what we need another bloated government program. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 3:09 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > > > Because you dislike who represents you, you think that all social > > > funding > > > should be withdrawn? Religious groups have an extra > agenda above and > > > beyond > > > the overt mission. It would be all to easy for a group to say, for > > > instance, > > > because you are from (insert disliked group here) either > > you repent of > > > your > > > evil ways or else (no food, no shelter etc). Moreover there > > > is far less > > > independent oversight and control over private religious > > groups doing > > > social > > > work than what you have with public agencies. The recent > > scandals in > > > the > > > catholic churches in the US and the church supported > > > residential schools > > > in > > > Canada are very good examples of why that independent oversight is > > > needed. > > > > > > larry > > > > > > -- > > > Larry C. Lyons > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > > EBStor.com > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > > http://www.pacel.com > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > > -- > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 4:02 PM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess this difference comes down to who we fell represents > > > > our society. I do not think our elected officials and > > > > appointed governement employees represent our society. > > > > > > > > Russel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Beth F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Date: 2002/06/18 Tue PM 03:54:07 EDT > > > > > To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, my reading on Catholic Christian doctorine says > > > > it is our > > > > > responsibility. I forget the exact reference, but I think > > > > it is the Gospel > > > > > of >St. John. "What you do for the least of your brothers, > > > > you do for me." > > > > > > > > > > I don't mean it that way - I mean that its our society's > > > > responsbility to > > > > > take care of our society whether or not religious groups do > > > > as well. We > > > > > can't just wash our hands of the poor and expect someone > > > > else to fix the > > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > > > I use the old adage "Give a man a fish and you feed him > > > > for a day. teach a > > > > > man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime." to guide > > > myself and my > > > > > activities. I personally feel that the way I am called to > > > > fight poverty is > > > > > in line with that adage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This does not preclude our society as a whole giving the > > > > fishing pole as > > > > > opposed to religious groups. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
