Even broader than who runs the schools, it's a whole "community attitude" issue:
yeara gao, our city had a CASA Fair - Community Against Substance Abuse. the Chief of Police and Mayor were at a fund-raising booth selling t-shirts. the t-shirts had a line drawing of a church with a cross on the steeple. my son, who was still in elementary school, I think, had the guts to go up to the two of them and say he was bothered by the cross - said it implied the community was only Christian. He said something like "it's not just that I'm Jewish, but in my class at school are kids who are Muslim, Hindu, Buddist, and nothing at all. This isn't fair to them too." IIRC the Puritans who came to this country for religious freedom were very hard on non-Puritans. -Ben > And if the kid is Jewish. > > This isn't a facetious question. Up until the 1970's the school systems in > Newfoundland and Quebec were run by religious groups. There were quite a few > cases every year of children being harassed by teachers for their religious > beliefs. > > larry > > -- > Larry C. Lyons > ColdFusion/Web Developer > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > EBStor.com > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > tel: (703) 393-7930 > fax: (703) 393-2659 > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > http://www.pacel.com > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > -- > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 4:26 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > > > The school that our church runs, will accept any member of the church > > regardless. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 3:23 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > Many groups use shunning of one sort or another. Moreover > > private groups > > are > > very selective. For example a private religious group that supports a > > school > > can pick and choose the children that attend. If the child has any > > difficulty, so what, they are not required to educate that kid. > > Frequently > > they dump those children off on the public system, who are required to > > accept all comers. > > > > larry > > > > -- > > Larry C. Lyons > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > EBStor.com > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > http://www.pacel.com > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > -- > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 4:12 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > > > > > > Larry, > > > > > > Not sure which Church you go to, but at our church, we welcome all > > > walks. We don't shun them. We hope that if they come to > > > Church God can > > > have a positive effect on their life, but we would never > > refuse them. > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 3:09 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > > > Because you dislike who represents you, you think that all social > > > funding > > > should be withdrawn? Religious groups have an extra agenda above and > > > beyond > > > the overt mission. It would be all to easy for a group to say, for > > > instance, > > > because you are from (insert disliked group here) either > > you repent of > > > your > > > evil ways or else (no food, no shelter etc). Moreover there > > > is far less > > > independent oversight and control over private religious > > groups doing > > > social > > > work than what you have with public agencies. The recent > > scandals in > > > the > > > catholic churches in the US and the church supported > > > residential schools > > > in > > > Canada are very good examples of why that independent oversight is > > > needed. > > > > > > larry > > > > > > -- > > > Larry C. Lyons > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > > EBStor.com > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > > http://www.pacel.com > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > > -- > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 4:02 PM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess this difference comes down to who we fell represents > > > > our society. I do not think our elected officials and > > > > appointed governement employees represent our society. > > > > > > > > Russel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Beth F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Date: 2002/06/18 Tue PM 03:54:07 EDT > > > > > To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, my reading on Catholic Christian doctorine says > > > > it is our > > > > > responsibility. I forget the exact reference, but I think > > > > it is the Gospel > > > > > of >St. John. "What you do for the least of your brothers, > > > > you do for me." > > > > > > > > > > I don't mean it that way - I mean that its our society's > > > > responsbility to > > > > > take care of our society whether or not religious groups do > > > > as well. We > > > > > can't just wash our hands of the poor and expect someone > > > > else to fix the > > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > > > I use the old adage "Give a man a fish and you feed him > > > > for a day. teach a > > > > > man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime." to guide > > > myself and my > > > > > activities. I personally feel that the way I am called to > > > > fight poverty is > > > > > in line with that adage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This does not preclude our society as a whole giving the > > > > fishing pole as > > > > > opposed to religious groups. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
