I think atheism could fit into #3 on Sam's list.

To be honest, hardcore atheists are as annoying (and frequently more
annoying) than even the most hardcore religious zealots out there. It goes
back to what I have been saying for a while, the closer you get to the
fringe, the less common sense there is.

I like how David Eagleman explains it -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS0b4QCpFGc


On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
> ok, so which one do you think atheists belong to?  Which one of those
> classifications does not have a belief
>
> sometimes I think religious people can't think any other way than in the
> context of a belief.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > 1.a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the
> > universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman
> agency
> > or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and
> often
> > containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
> >
> > 2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed
> > upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the
> Buddhist
> > religion.
> >
> > 3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and
> > practices: a world council of religions.
> >
> > 4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
> >
> > 5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
> >
> > .
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Religion: the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power,
> > esp.
> > > a personal God or gods.
> > >
> > > That argument about atheism being a religion reminds me of HGTG infocom
> > > game where you carry "no-tea" as an item in your inventory.  Of course,
> > in
> > > that it was meant to be comedy.  Unfortunately, in the real world,
> that's
> > > not so true.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > It's not a lie if it's not an affirmation. If you are religiously
> > against
> > > > religion then you should not take the job. Until they cater to your
> > > > religious needs that is.
> > > >
> > > > .
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <
> > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What other qualifications for office do you feel it would be okay
> to
> > > lie
> > > > > about?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't consider it an affirmation, but I understand if you do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > .
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <
> > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > true, but the point was being made that it's okay if you don't
> > > > believe
> > > > > > > because technically it's not lying.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > a lie is a lie regardless of how easy it is to expose.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If I apply for office in Texas and I affirm that I believe in a
> > > > higher
> > > > > > > power, is that not a lie just because it can't be proven
> easily?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Scott Stroz <
> [email protected]
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is a lot easier, I think, to verify someone has a degree
> > than
> > > > > verify
> > > > > > > > that they believe in some kind of deity.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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