we've hashed this over a bunch of times, but the atheism literally translates to "without gods", anti-theism would be "against gods". I know a lot of atheists who could care less what anyone else believes. They just don't hold a belief in a god or gods. They aren't going out to prosthelytize or try to change anyones view. At most, they don't want to be bound by someone else's beliefs or superstitions.
I'm even that same way with my daughters. I'm letting them make their own decisions on religions/beliefs. Will I hold it against them if they become believers? No, I won't.....just the same as it doesn't affect me one way or the other that their mother is a believer. But I do really get tired of people calling my lack of belief in a god(s) a belief. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think atheism could fit into #3 on Sam's list. > > To be honest, hardcore atheists are as annoying (and frequently more > annoying) than even the most hardcore religious zealots out there. It goes > back to what I have been saying for a while, the closer you get to the > fringe, the less common sense there is. > > I like how David Eagleman explains it - > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS0b4QCpFGc > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > ok, so which one do you think atheists belong to? Which one of those > > classifications does not have a belief > > > > sometimes I think religious people can't think any other way than in the > > context of a belief. > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > 1.a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the > > > universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman > > agency > > > or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and > > often > > > containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs. > > > > > > 2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed > > > upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the > > Buddhist > > > religion. > > > > > > 3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and > > > practices: a world council of religions. > > > > > > 4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion. > > > > > > 5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith. > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Religion: the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling > power, > > > esp. > > > > a personal God or gods. > > > > > > > > That argument about atheism being a religion reminds me of HGTG > infocom > > > > game where you carry "no-tea" as an item in your inventory. Of > course, > > > in > > > > that it was meant to be comedy. Unfortunately, in the real world, > > that's > > > > not so true. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's not a lie if it's not an affirmation. If you are religiously > > > against > > > > > religion then you should not take the job. Until they cater to your > > > > > religious needs that is. > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What other qualifications for office do you feel it would be okay > > to > > > > lie > > > > > > about? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Sam <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't consider it an affirmation, but I understand if you do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > true, but the point was being made that it's okay if you > don't > > > > > believe > > > > > > > > because technically it's not lying. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a lie is a lie regardless of how easy it is to expose. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I apply for office in Texas and I affirm that I believe > in a > > > > > higher > > > > > > > > power, is that not a lie just because it can't be proven > > easily? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Scott Stroz < > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a lot easier, I think, to verify someone has a degree > > > than > > > > > > verify > > > > > > > > > that they believe in some kind of deity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:366665 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
