Hey Jerry, go read the latest interview just released with Francis. His frank statements are outstanding:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/20/world/europe/pope-bluntly-faults-churchs-focus-on-gays-and-abortion.html?hp&_r=0 My favorites: A person once asked me, in a provocative manner, if I approved of homosexuality, he told Father Spadaro. I replied with another question: Tell me: when God looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of this person with love, or reject and condemn this person? We must always consider the person. AND This church with which we should be thinking is the home of all, not a small chapel that can hold only a small group of selected people, he said. We must not reduce the bosom of the universal church to a nest protecting our mediocrity. Dare I say that we have a major Christian leader acting.....Christ-like???? On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:01 PM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: > The Catholic Church is such an interesting dichotomy. It's really two very > separate entities...there's "The Catholic Church", with it's Capital C and > it's structured leadership and weird doctrines going back thousands of > years that have to be followed and protected at all costs and it's strict > dogma and practices and blah blah blah. > > Then there's "the catholic church"....the actual followers...the every day > catholics that you meet on the street. By and large, they are pretty > normal. Not prone to evangelicalism or zealotry. They love their vices, > specially drinking and gambling. They usually take their faith "sorta > seriously"...going to church here and there. They certainly don't concern > themselves much with Rome or the weird goings on of that Capital C church > structure. > > What this pope seems to be doing...is to bridge that gap a little bit by > bringing that Capital C a bit more in line with the every day > catholic...and how they see the world and live their lives. The average > catholic is married....why shouldn't priests be? The average catholic has > no problem with gays...why should the Church? The average catholic uses > contraception and family planning and....on and on... > > It's an interesting dynamic to watch. I wish Francis well! He's a complete > 180 from that ogre of a pope who, rightfully, resigned. > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> The fascinating part is he has ME questioning and reexamining and >> rethinking MY faith, even though I am not Catholic. >> >> To me, that is awe inspiring AND just about the definition of what he >> should be doing for his Church, and for the world. >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:50 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >> > He's been great. From personally calling the single-mother-to-be that >> had >> > written him, to suggesting....finally...that celibacy amongst priests is >> > NOT part of church doctrine, but instead a stupid traditional practice >> that >> > needs to end. ("stupid traditional practice" were my words :) >> > >> > Also his comments on homosexuality have been encouraging, especially the >> > "who am i to judge?" comment awhile back. >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson <[email protected] >> > >wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > Actually, I submit he is _biblically_ conservative, and he is correct >> > that >> > > the recent negative focus has harmed the church. >> > > >> > > So far, he is my kind of pope. >> > > >> > > >> > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Larry C. Lyons < >> [email protected] >> > > >wrote: >> > > >> > > > >> > > > Here's the full article. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/20/world/europe/pope-bluntly-faults-churchs-focus-on-gays-and-abortion.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0&smid=tw-share >> > > > >> > > > It appears that the guy the conclave elected was not the >> conservative >> > > they >> > > > hoped for. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Larry C. Lyons < >> > [email protected] >> > > > >wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Just saw this tweet >> > > > > >> > > > > What a remarkable man. MT @lauriegnyt < >> > https://twitter.com/lauriegnyt >> > > >: >> > > > > Pope says church too obsessed w/abortion, gay marriage & >> > > contraception. >> > > > > http://t.co/07HWEfaE2d <http://t.co/07HWEfaE2d> >> > > > > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > Larry C. Lyons >> > > > > web: http://www.lyonsmorris.com/lyons >> > > > > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/larryclyons >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > Larry C. Lyons >> > > > web: http://www.lyonsmorris.com/lyons >> > > > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/larryclyons >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:367247 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
