Don't say that out loud. The Evangelists might burn him at the stake.


On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 2:09 PM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Hey Jerry, go read the latest interview just released with Francis. His
> frank statements are outstanding:
>
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/20/world/europe/pope-bluntly-faults-churchs-focus-on-gays-and-abortion.html?hp&_r=0
>
> My favorites:
>
> “A person once asked me, in a provocative manner, if I approved of
> homosexuality,” he told Father Spadaro. “I replied with another question:
> ‘Tell me: when God looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of
> this person with love, or reject and condemn this person?’ We must always
> consider the person.”
>
> AND
>
> “This church with which we should be thinking is the home of all, not a
> small chapel that can hold only a small group of selected people,” he said.
> “We must not reduce the bosom of the universal church to a nest protecting
> our mediocrity.”
>
> Dare I say that we have a major Christian leader acting.....Christ-like????
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:01 PM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > The Catholic Church is such an interesting dichotomy. It's really two
> very
> > separate entities...there's "The Catholic Church", with it's Capital C
> and
> > it's structured leadership and weird doctrines going back thousands of
> > years that have to be followed and protected at all costs and it's strict
> > dogma and practices and blah blah blah.
> >
> > Then there's "the catholic church"....the actual followers...the every
> day
> > catholics that you meet on the street. By and large, they are pretty
> > normal. Not prone to evangelicalism or zealotry. They love their vices,
> > specially drinking and gambling. They usually take their faith "sorta
> > seriously"...going to church here and there. They certainly don't concern
> > themselves much with Rome or the weird goings on of that Capital C church
> > structure.
> >
> > What this pope seems to be doing...is to bridge that gap a little bit by
> > bringing that Capital C a bit more in line with the every day
> > catholic...and how they see the world and live their lives. The average
> > catholic is married....why shouldn't priests be? The average catholic has
> > no problem with gays...why should the Church? The average catholic uses
> > contraception and family planning and....on and on...
> >
> > It's an interesting dynamic to watch. I wish Francis well! He's a
> complete
> > 180 from that ogre of a pope who, rightfully, resigned.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> The fascinating part is he has ME questioning and reexamining and
> >> rethinking MY faith, even though I am not Catholic.
> >>
> >> To me, that is awe inspiring AND just about the definition of what he
> >> should be doing for his Church, and for the world.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:50 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > He's been great. From personally calling the single-mother-to-be that
> >> had
> >> > written him, to suggesting....finally...that celibacy amongst priests
> is
> >> > NOT part of church doctrine, but instead a stupid traditional practice
> >> that
> >> > needs to end. ("stupid traditional practice" were my words :)
> >> >
> >> > Also his comments on homosexuality have been encouraging, especially
> the
> >> > "who am i to judge?" comment awhile back.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson <
> [email protected]
> >> > >wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > Actually, I submit he is _biblically_ conservative, and he is
> correct
> >> > that
> >> > > the recent negative focus has harmed the church.
> >> > >
> >> > > So far, he is my kind of pope.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Larry C. Lyons <
> >> [email protected]
> >> > > >wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Here's the full article.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/20/world/europe/pope-bluntly-faults-churchs-focus-on-gays-and-abortion.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0&smid=tw-share
> >> > > >
> >> > > > It appears that the guy the conclave elected was not the
> >> conservative
> >> > > they
> >> > > > hoped for.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Larry C. Lyons <
> >> > [email protected]
> >> > > > >wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Just saw this tweet
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > What a remarkable man. MT @lauriegnyt <
> >> > https://twitter.com/lauriegnyt
> >> > > >:
> >> > > > > Pope says church too “obsessed” w/abortion, gay marriage &
> >> > > contraception.
> >> > > > >  http://t.co/07HWEfaE2d  <http://t.co/07HWEfaE2d>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --
> >> > > > > Larry C. Lyons
> >> > > > > web: http://www.lyonsmorris.com/lyons
> >> > > > > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/larryclyons
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > Larry C. Lyons
> >> > > > web: http://www.lyonsmorris.com/lyons
> >> > > > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/larryclyons
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
> 

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