On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote: > > They already said they were getting help for that incident, and have gotten > help. >
I think it needs to go beyond them getting therapy together. I think they both need therapy separately. He needs to learn not to punch hi fiance in the face and she needs to learn it is not acceptable be his punching bag. > > And you are not a psychologist, so on what basis are you saying that > someone who accidentally knocked out his fiancee had a relationship that > was beyond help? > I did not say the relationship was beyond help. I said there are things no amount of therapy can fix and that 'punching your fiance in the face' may be one of those things. There are things that I would consider unforgivable in a relationship. Getting punched in the face by your fiance would be on that list. How do you not think that 'punching your fiance in the face' is not 'abusive'? That is what truly boggles my mind. > > On 10 September 2014 12:09, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > What decision did I make on the lives of other people? That she (they > > actually) need help? > > > > Physical abuse is but one type of abuse - and it often goes hand in hand > > with emotional and sexual abuse > > > > I will say that if a man punches his fiance in the face, rendering her > > unconscious, that is abusive behavior - whether it was the first or 50th > > time he hit her. > > > > Nope, not at all. But, unless she/he/they want the help, no amount of > > counseling will work. > > > > Also, there are things that counseling might not work for. I think I > would > > put 'knocking your fiance unconscious' on that list - close to the top. > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372408 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
