lol gessh Hal doesn't even watch our HOF lists anymore *(sniff)* :(

OH well. I'm sure he'll do fine. And I haven't really used the fusebox lists
much since they came up with the harebrain FB council paying for membership
stuff. Guess we'll have to wait and see. But I would get hals book I bought
it and its really good. Most of hals stuff I really like.

Bill Wheatley
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Judith Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 3:48 PM
Subject: RE: Throwing the baby back


> Hal asked me to send this reply for him:
>
> >I wish I knew how to make Fusebox 3 clearer to folks. Part of the
> >problem is our fault: there hasn't been enough clear documentation
> >available. That is partially solved. John Q and I wrote a book called
> >"Discovering Fusebox 3" at techspedition.com. Jeff Peters and Nat
> >Papovich wrote one called "Fusebox: Developing ColdFusion Applications".
> >We also are working on putting out a specification in the manner of
> >Sun's docs, which will be free.
> >
> >Part of the problem is that Fusebox 3 tackles tougher issues and does
> >more than FB2. So we have the age-old trade-off between powerful and
> >easy to use. I personally think FB3 does a danged good job of balancing
> >the two. A lot of people agree, but obviously, not everyone does.
> >
> >As to the bad code Michael speaks of, well, I think that's true whether
> >one uses FB or not. I don't think that people set out with the
> >intention, "Let's write some really crummy code!" They just don't know
> >any better. In fact, at one point, none of us knew any better. A good
> >deal of this has to be laid at the doorstep of Macromedia's
> >documentation, which is, to be highly charitable, "minimalist".
> >
> >I'm not hoping to convert anyone to Fusebox. As someone pointed out,
> >it's not a religion. It may not coincide with the way some people's
> >minds work. There has to be a match there or it will always feel odd and
> >foreign. When I was involved in Smalltalk, this issue of non-matching
> >mental models made it very difficult for some people to really use OO to
> >its fullest. It didn't mean those developers were deficient--just that
> >OO might not have been the best choice for them.
> >
> >On the other hand, a large community of people have poked and prodded it
> >and all that testing and suggestions have made it, to my mind, an
> >excellent way to go.
>
> 
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