That could be because of the difference in thinking between the US and 
the UK... we're not the same country for a reason.  Our mentalities are 
different and our criminals are different.  Hell, you guys don't even 
arm your average police... you have "armed response vehicles", though I 
don't know their amount of use.

I remember a discussion that Phillip and I got in to some time back and 
it ended as an agreement to disagree.  Americans are guaranteed the 
right to bear arms by one of our founding documents.  Whether it be to 
provide food for our families, protect ourselves from the dangers of 
life, serve in a militia or military or use for recreational shooting... 
it is something that any citizen that is not a convicted felon can own.

My personal opinion is that regulations and restrictions would only be 
followed by people that would not break the law.  Those that will break 
the law will do so at any means and cost.

Hatton

Will Swain wrote:

>"As to the victims, think about it from a criminal mind.  If a law were
>passed making weapon ownership illegal, then you know there is a much
>lower chance of retaliation for things like break-ins or hold-ups.  More
>violent crimes such as assault, rape and kidnappings probably would not
>be affected, but if there is a known reduction in resistance what is to
>stop an increase in crime?"
>
>But that just isn't the case here. Infact, we have less violent crime. How
>do you explain that?
>
>w
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Hatton Humphrey [mailto:hatton@;fishertowne.com]
>Sent: 22 October 2002 14:32
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: Possible Sniper Arrest
>
>
>If weapons are taken off of the public market then they *will* find
>their way to the underground market.  There only the criminal element
>would have the know-how to purchase weapons, or private citizens would
>have to break to law to purchase them, thereby becoming criminals.  Yes
>they would be more difficult to get but they would still be available.
>
>Also, don't be so naieve as to think that the US is the only place to
>get weapons from.  Want a tank?  Talk to the Russians!  If they're
>willing to sell the spare seat on their space missions they're more than
>willing to part with a little bit of base hardware.  In addition, what
>ramifications would making firearms illegal in the US have on the
>economy?  The action would affect some areas that are home to weapons
>R&D and manufacturing rather hard.
>
>As to the victims, think about it from a criminal mind.  If a law were
>passed making weapon ownership illegal, then you know there is a much
>lower chance of retaliation for things like break-ins or hold-ups.  More
>violent crimes such as assault, rape and kidnappings probably would not
>be affected, but if there is a known reduction in resistance what is to
>stop an increase in crime?
>
>. and don't say a mobilized police force becuase too many areas are
>having to cut public service funding due to budget shortfalls, lost tax
>revenues and decreasing enrollment.  They're stretched as is.
>
>Hatton
>
>Will Swain wrote:
>
>  
>
>>I see what you are saying Hatton, but I can't see any argument to the logic
>>that preventing legal purchase of guns = less guns in circulation = harder
>>to get hold of. That's the situation here certainly.
>>
>>Lastly, not sure how it would provide more victims?
>>
>>w
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Hatton Humphrey [mailto:hatton@;fishertowne.com]
>>Sent: 22 October 2002 14:12
>>To: CF-Community
>>Subject: Re: Possible Sniper Arrest
>>
>>
>>Will,
>>
>>The only thing preventing legal purchases of firearms would do is
>>provide more victims for those willing to break the law anyway.
>>
>>A person that is willing to commit a crime does not carry around a tally
>>sheet thinking, "Okay, I'm willing to get caught for breaking and
>>entering, theft and posession of controlled substances but there's no
>>way I'm going to break a gun law."
>>
>>A friend of mine put it best: Intelligent theories are completely
>>worthless when applied to those who do not fit the normal mold of society.
>>
>>Hatton
>>
>>Will Swain wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>I see. So, theoretically at least, this gun may have been acquired legally
>>>in another state, and bought into Maryland? So surely preventing legal
>>>acquisition of guns would go some way to stopping individuals like this
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>from
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>owning them?
>>>
>>>w
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>The states al have different gun laws.  So while the gun may be illegal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>in
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>Maryland, it may not be in Virginia.  That is one of the things that
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>makes
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>the debate more difficult.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
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