I am alive because of animal research. I support animal research. Let me put
it this way, to quote a late night comedian, if the cure for AIDS required
you to put a couple of electrodes on the head of a monkey and create fried
monkey brains all I have to say remember red is for negative and black is
for positive.

In other words given the choice between an animal and a human, the human
would win out regularly.

Besides if you were a tiger you'd probably not feel as you describe. As a
tiger you couldn't articulate those thoughts.

larry

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:phoeunp@;entelligence.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 11:58 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: omg, VOMIT jellybeans??
> 
> 
> What about their freedom?  Even though they are cared for and 
> well fed, they
> still are only allowed what their human masters give them.  
> Rocks, trees,
> people staring at them.  Man if I was a tiger I want to roam 
> around free.  I
> don't know if animals have these kind of feelings, but if 
> they do, I hope
> you would disagree with zoos.
> 
> THink of it this way.  An alien species invades earth.  They 
> are quite kind.
> They put us in this big Biodome where we can be humans and do 
> our thing,
> while they study us, drop in a few chicks for us to mate with 
> so we don't
> have to look, give us our food, does mostly everything for 
> us.  Wonder what
> it must feel like!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Lyons [mailto:llyons@;ebstor.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 7:56 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: omg, VOMIT jellybeans??
> 
> 
> 
> Kevin,
> 
> 
> First off I am in no way a supporter of any group like PETA 
> or other radical
> animal rights groups. If anything I am very much against their agenda.
> 
> It also depends on what type of zoo you're talking about. 
> Many zoos are
> quite good, the state and municipally sponsored zoos, and similar
> organizations like the National Zoo are very active in 
> conservation, and
> attempt to make the exhibits into an appropriate environment for the
> animals.
> 
> Most of the privately run zoos, typically the roadside 
> attraction kind, are
> little better than hellholes. The animals are inadequately 
> housed and fed,
> mistreated and in some cases actually tortured. Frankly these 
> private zoos
> really should be run out of business. They belong to the same ignorant
> primitive era as freak shows and dog fighting.
> 
> larry
> 
> --
> Larry C. Lyons
> ColdFusion/Web Developer
> Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
> EBStor.com
> 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
> Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
> tel:   (703) 393-7930
> fax:   (703) 393-2659
> Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> --
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:schmidt@;hungrycow.com]
> > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:27 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: omg, VOMIT jellybeans??
> >
> >
> > I disagree, in a zoo the animals are well cared for and they
> > are fed.  They
> > aren't put in tiny cages they can't stand up in and aren't
> > intentionally
> > wounded for profit.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Phoeun Pha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:30 PM
> > Subject: RE: omg, VOMIT jellybeans??
> >
> >
> > > Yeah it's bad.  And it's nothing different from a zoo either.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:schmidt@;hungrycow.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:31 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: omg, VOMIT jellybeans??
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That's really sad.  I am very much against animal cruelty
> > and it makes me
> > > sick to see animals treated that way.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Phoeun Pha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:09 PM
> > > Subject: RE: omg, VOMIT jellybeans??
> > >
> > >
> > > > SO that's where all the <A
> > > >
> > HREF="http://www.wspa-international.org/news/news-09.html";>BEA
> > R BILE</a>
> > > > goes!
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jim Davis [mailto:jim@;depressedpress.com]
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:37 AM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: RE: omg, VOMIT jellybeans??
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I tried these.  I went to the JellyBelly warehouse that is
> > > > > near my house,
> > > > > and they give free samples within the store.  When the woman
> > > > > handed them
> > > > > to me, I assumed that they just had disgusting names,
> > but would taste
> > > > > fine.  I was WRONG!  I tried half a bite of the vomit one and
> > > > > spent the
> > > > > next 10 minutes trying to get the taste out of my mouth.
> > > > > After that, I
> > > > > couldn't bring myself to try the booger one, or any of the
> > > > > other flavors.
> > > > > =(
> > > >
> > > > But remember - there's some poor group deep inside the 
> JellyBelly
> > > > factory that usually gets assignments like "make sure
> > this tastes of
> > > > cherry".  For weeks they had to write reports on how close to
> > > > vomit-flavored test jelly beans had become...
> > > >
> > > > "Test Number 142, Batch number 6,405: Closest yet,
> > although it still has
> > > > a marked rotten apple aftertaste.  Suggest more digestive
> > acid and less
> > > > fructose.  Please kill me."
> > > >
> > > > I think that they earned there pensions right there.  And
> > to think, some
> > > > of them probbly complained when "pina colada" was being 
> tested...
> > > >
> > > > Jim Davis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
> 
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