What about their freedom?  Even though they are cared for and well fed, they
still are only allowed what their human masters give them.  Rocks, trees,
people staring at them.  Man if I was a tiger I want to roam around free.  I
don't know if animals have these kind of feelings, but if they do, I hope
you would disagree with zoos.

THink of it this way.  An alien species invades earth.  They are quite kind.
They put us in this big Biodome where we can be humans and do our thing,
while they study us, drop in a few chicks for us to mate with so we don't
have to look, give us our food, does mostly everything for us.  Wonder what
it must feel like!




-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Lyons [mailto:llyons@;ebstor.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 7:56 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: omg, VOMIT jellybeans??



Kevin,


First off I am in no way a supporter of any group like PETA or other radical
animal rights groups. If anything I am very much against their agenda.

It also depends on what type of zoo you're talking about. Many zoos are
quite good, the state and municipally sponsored zoos, and similar
organizations like the National Zoo are very active in conservation, and
attempt to make the exhibits into an appropriate environment for the
animals.

Most of the privately run zoos, typically the roadside attraction kind, are
little better than hellholes. The animals are inadequately housed and fed,
mistreated and in some cases actually tortured. Frankly these private zoos
really should be run out of business. They belong to the same ignorant
primitive era as freak shows and dog fighting.

larry

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:schmidt@;hungrycow.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:27 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: omg, VOMIT jellybeans??
>
>
> I disagree, in a zoo the animals are well cared for and they
> are fed.  They
> aren't put in tiny cages they can't stand up in and aren't
> intentionally
> wounded for profit.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phoeun Pha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:30 PM
> Subject: RE: omg, VOMIT jellybeans??
>
>
> > Yeah it's bad.  And it's nothing different from a zoo either.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:schmidt@;hungrycow.com]
> > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:31 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: omg, VOMIT jellybeans??
> >
> >
> >
> > That's really sad.  I am very much against animal cruelty
> and it makes me
> > sick to see animals treated that way.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Phoeun Pha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:09 PM
> > Subject: RE: omg, VOMIT jellybeans??
> >
> >
> > > SO that's where all the <A
> > >
> HREF="http://www.wspa-international.org/news/news-09.html";>BEA
> R BILE</a>
> > > goes!
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jim Davis [mailto:jim@;depressedpress.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:37 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: omg, VOMIT jellybeans??
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I tried these.  I went to the JellyBelly warehouse that is
> > > > near my house,
> > > > and they give free samples within the store.  When the woman
> > > > handed them
> > > > to me, I assumed that they just had disgusting names,
> but would taste
> > > > fine.  I was WRONG!  I tried half a bite of the vomit one and
> > > > spent the
> > > > next 10 minutes trying to get the taste out of my mouth.
> > > > After that, I
> > > > couldn't bring myself to try the booger one, or any of the
> > > > other flavors.
> > > > =(
> > >
> > > But remember - there's some poor group deep inside the JellyBelly
> > > factory that usually gets assignments like "make sure
> this tastes of
> > > cherry".  For weeks they had to write reports on how close to
> > > vomit-flavored test jelly beans had become...
> > >
> > > "Test Number 142, Batch number 6,405: Closest yet,
> although it still has
> > > a marked rotten apple aftertaste.  Suggest more digestive
> acid and less
> > > fructose.  Please kill me."
> > >
> > > I think that they earned there pensions right there.  And
> to think, some
> > > of them probbly complained when "pina colada" was being tested...
> > >
> > > Jim Davis
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

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