I've been doing WW since last Thanksgiving. I've lost 51-lbs since starting
and haven't really found it to be a huge difference in my life style. Pretty
much eat what I want when I want just more careful about portions.

Started Kenpo Jujitsu two weeks ago to speed the process to 200lbs up :)

Duane

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:58 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Weight Watchers (was: RE: Adkins)


Hi Robert,

You are absolutely correct, I shouldn't make sweeping generalizations
:-)

You are also correct that various people's metabolisms differ, and one diet
might not work for another person.

What I really meant is that "in general" a diet that focuses on particular
food types may not be as healthy for most people as a more balanced diet.
This includes the grapefruit, cabbage soup, etc. diets.

re: Weight Watchers - I lost 35 pounds on it without feeling very deprived
(but was still depraved <g>), in combination with moderate exercise.

It is basically a reduced calorie diet that rewards you for low fat and high
fiber, penalizes you for high fat and low fiber.  My cholesterol went down
too. Plus it may reduce the risk of colon cancer (from all the fiber and
veggies). You can really stay full depending on what you pick for snacks
(e.g. a huge nonfat tortilla with a certain kind of bean spread and
smothered in salsa counted as 1 "point", and I get 28 to 35 points a day at
my weight).

A bunch of the stuff I've read on diets said it is sensible and healthy. May
not have as rapid a weight loss as some others, but then rapid weight loss
tends to rapidly come back.  As compared to Jenny Craig where you eat their
food, WW teaches you how to eat in a way that can keep weight off.

And my loss included scheduled and unscheduled pig-outs - then I went back
on program.

Best of luck...

-Ben


>From: Robert Everland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Adkins
>Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:36:29 -0500
>
>Actually it's not really good to say that one diet is good for all people.
>A
>diet is only as good as the person doing it. So if you can stay on the
>atkins and lose the weight, then that's better than trying to do it the
>recommended way. There has also been a study recently that has shown that
>the Atkins diet isn't as bad as you may have thought
>http://www.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/diet.fitness/11/19/otsc.atkins.diet/index.ht
m
>l . Again, not every diet is for everyone. I tried the Atkins and couldn't
>do it, others have lost a ton of weight, some people just can't process
>carbs like other people, which is where this diet helps people out. If
>you're on the Atkins diet you just have to be aware of some of the issues
>Ben has to say and make sure you monitor these things, but from the article
>it is saying that the obvious thins like high cholestrol may not actually
>happen. Oh well, dieting is not an exact sience. I am trying weight
>watchers
>right now, we'll see how that one goes.
>
>Robert Everland III
>Web Developer Extraordinaire
>Dixon Ticonderoga Company
>http://www.dixonusa.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:28 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: Adkins
>
>
>Yes, it makes your breath reek.
>Your body goes into ketosis, and the smell is blowing off acetone.
>
>Atkins screws up your whole metabolic balance in much the same way as acute
>starvation or severe diabetes.
>
>see WebMD article: http://my.webmd.com/content/asset/miller_keane_18249
>
>IMHO, the only diet that really works without messing up your health is to
>decrease total calories as part of a nutritionally-balanced diet, and
>increase calorie expenditure through aerobic and other exercise. The basic
>immutable rule of physiology is 3,500 calories = 1 pound.
>
>-Ben
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Adam Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: Adkins
> >Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:24:27 -0000
> >
> >Doesn't it make you breath reak?
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 22 November 2002 09:10
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Adkins
> > >
> > >
> > > How are you finding the adkins diet?
> > >
> > > there was a documentary about it over here basically saying it was
> > > very bad for you
> > >
> > > But the weight loss was preety good, but i'm really not sure about
> > > the ultrea low carb part
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > Oh, and before anybody jumps on me 'cause of the "lazy worthless
> >fat-ass"
> > > thing, I used to weigh 320# and stand 6'0" tall. I took my own
> > > weight and my own health into serious consideration and over the
> > > past two years I have reduced my weight to 260# my goal is 220# and
> > > I am about a year away from it
> > > (Atkins and exercise, baby!).
> > >
> > > And believe me, if *I* can do it *anyone* can!
> > >
> > > McDonalds *did not* make me fat. *I did.* (I don't like fast
> > > food...too much
> > > salt) Or rather *my* actions (or lack of action) did...
> > >
> > > I'm sick and goddamned tired of these worthless morons.
> > >
> > > my $0.02
> > >
> > > will
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > > 425.466.7016 Cell
> > > 425.739.3690 FAX
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dan Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 9:13 AM
> > > Subject: omg - the lawsuits just got worse
> > >
> > >
> > > > Now someone has a class action lawsuit against the golden arches
> > > > ...
> >his
> > > argument ... "They're all fricken sheep" ...
> > > >
> > > > http://www.cnn.com/2002/LAW/11/21/fast.food.lawsuit.ap/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

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