GO DUANE!!!  I've never been large but I do know that I feel so much better
when I'm working out consistently.  DRE

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Duane Boudreau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 10:52 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Weight Watchers (was: RE: Adkins)
> 
> 
> I know her pain! Been big since I was 6. Was in decent shape 
> from 15 to 25 (got married) and its been down hill since. 
> Since 25 I haven't been under 265 and have been as high as 
> 350 (*ouch!*).
> 
> During last years annual physical my family doctor asked me 
> about my financials. Asked if we saved/invested money or just 
> spent everything at each paycheck. I told him that of course 
> we saved and invested as much as we could. His next statement 
> was to think of my health as my paycheck. Joined WW the next day :)
> 
> So far I honestly haven't found WW to be intrusive at all, 
> and next to family and CF its the thing I love most ;). 
> Exercise has been a big problem with us too. It mostly my 
> fault, working 60+ a week and going to school one night a 
> week doesn't leave much time. Two weeks ago I said the hell 
> with it and me and my wife joined "Black Belt Academy" with 
> classes 3 nights during the week and two on the weekends.
> 
> Duane
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 12:25 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Weight Watchers (was: RE: Adkins)
> 
> 
> Awesome, way to go Duane !!
> 
> My daughter lost about 80 pounds with WW, karate, and the 
> gym. (Age 16-17 at the time.) Has kept it off. Turned her life around.
> 
> Wife and I aren't overeating right now, we're 
> under-exercising. Gotta make the workouts a higher priority...
> 
> -Ben
> 
> 
> >From: "Duane Boudreau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: Weight Watchers (was: RE: Adkins)
> >Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:17:33 -0500
> >
> >I've been doing WW since last Thanksgiving. I've lost 51-lbs since 
> >starting and haven't really found it to be a huge difference 
> in my life 
> >style. Pretty much eat what I want when I want just more 
> careful about 
> >portions.
> >
> >Started Kenpo Jujitsu two weeks ago to speed the process to 
> 200lbs up 
> >:)
> >
> >Duane
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:58 AM
> >To: CF-Community
> >Subject: Weight Watchers (was: RE: Adkins)
> >
> >
> >Hi Robert,
> >
> >You are absolutely correct, I shouldn't make sweeping generalizations
> >:-)
> >
> >You are also correct that various people's metabolisms 
> differ, and one 
> >diet might not work for another person.
> >
> >What I really meant is that "in general" a diet that focuses on 
> >particular food types may not be as healthy for most people 
> as a more 
> >balanced diet. This includes the grapefruit, cabbage soup, 
> etc. diets.
> >
> >re: Weight Watchers - I lost 35 pounds on it without feeling very 
> >deprived (but was still depraved <g>), in combination with moderate 
> >exercise.
> >
> >It is basically a reduced calorie diet that rewards you for 
> low fat and 
> >high fiber, penalizes you for high fat and low fiber.  My 
> cholesterol 
> >went down too. Plus it may reduce the risk of colon cancer (from all 
> >the fiber and veggies). You can really stay full depending 
> on what you 
> >pick for snacks (e.g. a huge nonfat tortilla with a certain kind of 
> >bean spread and smothered in salsa counted as 1 "point", and 
> I get 28 
> >to 35 points a day at my weight).
> >
> >A bunch of the stuff I've read on diets said it is sensible and 
> >healthy. May not have as rapid a weight loss as some others, 
> but then 
> >rapid weight loss tends to rapidly come back.  As compared to Jenny 
> >Craig where you eat their food, WW teaches you how to eat in 
> a way that 
> >can keep weight off.
> >
> >And my loss included scheduled and unscheduled pig-outs - 
> then I went 
> >back on program.
> >
> >Best of luck...
> >
> >-Ben
> >
> >
> > >From: Robert Everland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: RE: Adkins
> > >Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:36:29 -0500
> > >
> > >Actually it's not really good to say that one diet is good for all
> >people.
> > >A
> > >diet is only as good as the person doing it. So if you can stay on 
> > >the atkins and lose the weight, then that's better than 
> trying to do 
> > >it the recommended way. There has also been a study 
> recently that has 
> > >shown that the Atkins diet isn't as bad as you may have thought
> >
> >http://www.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/diet.fitness/11/19/otsc.atkins
> .diet/inde
> >x.ht
> >m
> > >l . Again, not every diet is for everyone. I tried the Atkins and
> >couldn't
> > >do it, others have lost a ton of weight, some people just can't 
> > >process carbs like other people, which is where this diet helps 
> > >people out. If you're on the Atkins diet you just have to 
> be aware of 
> > >some of the issues Ben has to say and make sure you monitor these 
> > >things, but from the
> >article
> > >it is saying that the obvious thins like high cholestrol may not 
> > >actually happen. Oh well, dieting is not an exact sience. 
> I am trying 
> > >weight watchers right now, we'll see how that one goes.
> > >
> > >Robert Everland III
> > >Web Developer Extraordinaire
> > >Dixon Ticonderoga Company
> > >http://www.dixonusa.com
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:28 AM
> > >To: CF-Community
> > >Subject: RE: Adkins
> > >
> > >
> > >Yes, it makes your breath reek.
> > >Your body goes into ketosis, and the smell is blowing off acetone.
> > >
> > >Atkins screws up your whole metabolic balance in much the 
> same way as
> >acute
> > >starvation or severe diabetes.
> > >
> > >see WebMD article: 
> > >http://my.webmd.com/content/asset/miller_keane_18249
> > >
> > >IMHO, the only diet that really works without messing up 
> your health 
> > >is
> >to
> > >decrease total calories as part of a 
> nutritionally-balanced diet, and 
> > >increase calorie expenditure through aerobic and other 
> exercise. The
> >basic
> > >immutable rule of physiology is 3,500 calories = 1 pound.
> > >
> > >-Ben
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Adam Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Subject: RE: Adkins
> > > >Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:24:27 -0000
> > > >
> > > >Doesn't it make you breath reak?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: 22 November 2002 09:10
> > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > Subject: Adkins
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > How are you finding the adkins diet?
> > > > >
> > > > > there was a documentary about it over here basically 
> saying it 
> > > > > was very bad for you
> > > > >
> > > > > But the weight loss was preety good, but i'm really not sure 
> > > > > about the ultrea low carb part
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, and before anybody jumps on me 'cause of the 
> "lazy worthless
> > > >fat-ass"
> > > > > thing, I used to weigh 320# and stand 6'0" tall. I 
> took my own 
> > > > > weight and my own health into serious consideration 
> and over the 
> > > > > past two years I have reduced my weight to 260# my 
> goal is 220# 
> > > > > and I am about a year away from it (Atkins and 
> exercise, baby!).
> > > > >
> > > > > And believe me, if *I* can do it *anyone* can!
> > > > >
> > > > > McDonalds *did not* make me fat. *I did.* (I don't like fast 
> > > > > food...too much
> > > > > salt) Or rather *my* actions (or lack of action) did...
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm sick and goddamned tired of these worthless morons.
> > > > >
> > > > > my $0.02
> > > > >
> > > > > will
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> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Dan Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 9:13 AM
> > > > > Subject: omg - the lawsuits just got worse
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Now someone has a class action lawsuit against the golden 
> > > > > > arches ...
> > > >his
> > > > > argument ... "They're all fricken sheep" ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.cnn.com/2002/LAW/11/21/fast.food.lawsuit.ap/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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