Uh, huh. That one room with several different organizations in different years making decisions on extensive published literature. You are trying to support an untenable position by resorting to a singular piece of weak circumstantial evidence. IIRC, those doctors "shut out" for letting a bias drive a position instead of looking at the overwhelming evidence.
I'm not even trying to take a pro- or anti- homosexual stance. I'm just paying attention to the results of hundreds of studies. -Kevin > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 2:56 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Warning: This may offend if religious > > > The story of that is a very interesting one. It basically > involved a 'forced' > vote where those against were not allowed into the room. Once the > vote was made, > there was basically no turning back. Lots of controversy... > > > http://www.aap.org/policy/05072.html > > "In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association reclassified > homosexuality as > > a sexual orientation/expression rather than as a mental > disorder. [1] The > > etiology of homosexuality remains unclear, but the current > literature and > > the vast majority of scholars in this field state that one's sexual > > orientation is not a choice, that is, individuals no more choose to be > > homosexual than heterosexual." > > > > http://www.psych.org/pract_of_psych/copptherapyaddendum83100.cfm > > "...the American Psychiatric Association opposes any > psychiatric treatment, > > such as reparative or conversion therapy which is based upon > the assumption > > that homosexuality per se is a mental disorder or based upon > the a priori > > assumption that the patient should change his/her sexual homosexual > > orientation." > > > > http://www.psych.org/public_info/homose~1.cfm > > "There are a few reports in the literature of efforts to use > > psychotherapeutic and counseling techniques to treat persons troubled by > > their homosexuality who desire to become heterosexual; however, > results have > > not been conclusive, nor have they been replicated. There is no evidence > > that any treatment can change a homosexual person's deep seated sexual > > feelings for others of the same sex. " > > > > http://www.apa.org/pubinfo/answers.html > > "Is Sexual Orientation a Choice? > > > > No, human beings can not choose to be either gay or straight. Sexual > > orientation emerges for most people in early adolescence > without any prior > > sexual experience. Although we can choose whether to act on our > feelings, > > psychologists do not consider sexual orientation to be a > conscious choice > > that can be voluntarily changed." > > > > http://www.hrc.org/newsreleases/1998/981211apa.asp > > http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/resolution97_comment.html > > http://www.covenantnetwork.org/chgther.html > > > > -Kevin > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 12:49 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: Warning: This may offend if religious > > > > > > > > > Actually, it is. No amount of research has shown for a fact that > > > you are forced > > > to be gay or not. There has been some research to show that there > > > are things > > > that may make someone more inclined in that area, but the same > > > can be said for > > > many other behavioral choices. > > > On that same note, there is research to indicate that religion, > > > or the belief in > > > the divine has a biological component as well. As this puts > > > homosexuality on the > > > same biological level as religion, to bash one is to allow > the bashing of > > > another. Lets add in left handed people as well just for good measure. > > > > > > > > > > Homosexuality is usually not a choice. > > > > > > > > -Kevin > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: William H. Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 11:39 AM > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > Subject: Re: Warning: This may offend if religious > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I find it interesting that homosexuality is considered a > > > > > "lifestyle" choice > > > > > whereas religious faith is not. > > > > > > > > > > <cf_flamesuit condition=on> > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > ---- > > > > > > > > > > William H. Bowen > > > > > Webmaster > > > > > > > > > > ALSTOM's T&D Energy Automation & Information Business > > > > > > > > > > "Your friendly neighborhood Webmaster!" > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > http://www.esca.com/ > > > > > > > > > > 425.739.3629 Voice > > > > > 425.466.7016 Cell > > > > > 425.739.3690 FAX > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Matthew Small" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 8:34 AM > > > > > Subject: RE: Warning: This may offend if religious > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, you got your flame :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > First of all, I would say that you need to read the Bible > > > in order to > > > > > > understand it, and then there are things that either > humans are not > > > > > > meant to understand or their meaning has not been revealed yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > Second, I respect your right to disbelieve and disagree but > > > not to bash. > > > > > > Just two or three days ago, this list (publicly, at least) > > > was all about > > > > > > protecting the homosexual lifestyle and routing out the > bigots. My > > > > > > faith is as important to me as anybody else's lifestyle. > > > Saying that > > > > > > war is all due to the Christian Bible is like saying that > > > poverty is due > > > > > > to the blacks, or that all Muslims are looking to bomb your > > > workspace. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not upset, I just want the respect that every other > > > lifestyle seems > > > > > > to enjoy. It seems like bashing Christians for their faith > > > is ok these > > > > > > days. > > > > > > > > > > > > Matthew Small > > > > > > IT Supervisor > > > > > > Showstopper National Dance Competitions > > > > > > 3660 Old Kings Hwy > > > > > > Murrells Inlet, SC 29576 > > > > > > 843-357-1847 > > > > > > http://www.showstopperonline.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 11:13 AM > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > Subject: RE: Warning: This may offend if religious > > > > > > > > > > > > i for one agree totally > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > Sent: 05 December 2002 16:22 > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > Subject: RE: Warning: This may offend if religious > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's no wonder the world is at war. One chapter say's this > > > and the next > > > > > > contradicts but nobody can get the point. > > > > > > > > > > > > Well there was a South Park episode that got it right. > This book was > > > > > > meant > > > > > > as an example not as law and certainly not a prelude for war. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Expecting Flames > > > > > > > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 9:19 AM > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > Subject: Warning: This may offend if religious > > > > > > > > > > > > http://justdrew.net/Biblical/ > > > > > > > > > > > > This guy basically goes through the bible pointing out > > > inconsistancies > > > > > > > > > > > > Some are pretty funny/strange, but damn interesting > none the less > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, and the links he points out goto a site that only > has the New > > > > > > Testament, not the Old, so quite a few don't work > > > > > > > > > > > > Philip Arnold > > > > > > Technical Director > > > > > > Certified ColdFusion Developer > > > > > > ASP Multimedia Limited > > > > > > Switchboard: +44 (0)20 8680 8099 > > > > > > Fax: +44 (0)20 8686 7911 > > > > > > > > > > > > www.aspmedia.co.uk > > > > > > www.aspevents.net > > > > > > > > > > > > An ISO9001 registered company. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > > > > > > This email and any files transmitted with it are > confidential and > > > > > > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity > to whom they > > > > > > are addressed. 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