Well, you'll hear me regularly criticise my own government, it's policies and particularly it's policies with regards to Iraq. I have plenty to say about domestic UK politics too.
As for the British Empire as it was, I believe we have a major part to play in the reasons behind the current situation in the Middle East. The terror laws you refer to, were, at the time, the subject of much debate and indeed anger over here, and the issue of Northern Ireland still polarises opinions. We have our own problems, and I certainly won't deny that. w -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2003 13:56 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: 1 View of USA from UK > I understand your point entirely Tim, but perhaps the big difference is that Gel's country's foreign policies don't have as > much of an impact on the world at large as yours? Or yours Will. Funny that no one is attacking England's part in all of this. Your country was the imperialist, feudal society that we all had to break away from. Your country has passed far more draconian laws in regards to privacy and the press than would ever be able to find support here. I mean your terror laws from "the troubles" were bad enough. Yet no one talks bad about Great Briton. The US is the perpetual target and it makes me sick. Many of these nations wouldn't exists or know freedom at all if it were not for my country. > I don't think it's wrong to criticize other countries for how they behave. And neither does America otherwise it wouldn't > involve itself in their affairs. I don't think it's wrong. I just think it has gone too far. It is the in thing to be anti-American. Even in America it's cool to be anti-American. I recently was walking to the metro here in DC. Now my stroll takes me through George Washington University. I happened to notice several students wearing the little Palestinian black and white checkered scarf. As he got into his land rover. I almost had to assault the guy. I was able to restrain myself, but man did that get me mad. I mean he had the little no war stickers and here he was wearing this in support of suicide bombers, terrorists. Probably walked in the pretty little demonstration they had here a few weeks back. Hey did anyone here know that International A.N.S.W.E.R. is run by the World Workers Party. WWP are the guys who think N Korea and Cuba are socialist utopias, and that Milosevic should be set free. Strange. I don't really know what to think sometimes. I just would love to hear someone say thanks to us for once rather than shit on us every time we try to help or make things better. Tim -----Original Message----- From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:12 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: 1 View of USA from UK I understand your point entirely Tim, but perhaps the big difference is that Gel's country's foreign policies don't have as much of an impact on the world at large as yours? I don't think it's wrong to criticise other countries for how they behave. And neither does America otherwise it wouldn't involve itself in their affairs. I'm not saying it's wrong per se, just that it's hardly surprising that people feel free to criticise the most powerful nation in the world. w -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2003 13:07 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: 1 View of USA from UK I find myself feeling the exact same thing sometimes Gel. I mean here's something I think about. How many troops did your country send to Somalia to try and feed people? How many did you send to eastern Europe to stop the genocide? How many of your people have walked on the moon or in space? What are the laws regarding free press in your country like (funny, the guy doesn't comment on that fact the England has almost fully censored news when the gov't wants it). What are your taxes like? Health care? Welfare? Poverty? Unemployment? See I have never been to your country, and I have never lived there. So I don't consider myself as able to comment on it. I have no knowledge of your situation. Even had I been there, I am still not a citizen of your nation, and therefore I have no say what so ever in what goes on there, and as such need formulate no opinion, as whatever happens there will have little to no impact on my life. Tim -----Original Message----- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 7:51 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: 1 View of USA from UK Uhh..that's just a ridiculous standpoint to take when discussing a subject on an international list. It means you can't objectively argue anything about America with anyone BUT Americans. That's moves beyond the realm of 'patriotism' into something else. -Gel -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Now, if Gel or will@hothorse said these things, I would have to defend the US against all comers. Doesn't make much sense (even to me), but criticism from inside good. Napster bad. Sorry. Criticism from outside bad. Still a bit unclear about it all, Jerry Johnson >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/03/03 04:59PM >>> Jerry, Where are you from? Again, just trying to get a perspective on thoughts in different parts of the world. Andy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
