Bill,
I am really sorry you have all of this going on. Please let us know
if there is anything we can do to help. I have an uncle that is an acute
schizophrenic, manic depressive. I know what it's like to live with and
love someone who is mentally ill.
Blessed Be my friend.
Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:00 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: antidepressants (was RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam)
Of course, well red meat is only once a month for her because she doesnt
like it.
The thing that is annoying i spent years with her tryign to find out what
was wrong back when FMS was still new and unknown to general public and for
awhile we thought she had Gulf War Illness since we did plenty of research
into that and i wont get into all the fun HIV-1 & HIV-2 strains that iraq
was splicing into germs but for awhile we thought she had Gulf War Illness
which with the research we read from doctors and VA administrators was
contagious under the right circumstances.
So we find out she has FMS and find out the things she cant have because it
will make it worse.
Like caffine and smoking are bad for making it flair up and she wont stop
doing either. and i can only feel sorry for someone so long before you get
sick of them NOT doing what has to be done to take care of the problem.
I'm sure it probably just sounds like i'm bitching but i am sure someone
knows what i'm talkinga bout. Not that i dont love her i do, but i just wish
she would at least try to do things to make it more liveable then to just
complain all day. FMS is a horrible illness and its also horrible on the
family taking alot of patient and understanding. So anyone else going
through it
be strong as ya can cause its a tough road
----- Original Message -----
From: "BethF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: antidepressants (was RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam)
> red meat is supposedly excellent for both cfs and fms
>
> sorry to hear wife is having difficulties. send her our best wishes.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 6:55 AM
> Subject: Re: antidepressants (was RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam)
>
>
> > LOL
> > Hrm first you can cure mental illness, but the biggest problem you need
to
> > find a cure
> > for fibromyalgia and then miofacial pain syndrome as well and on top of
> that
> > chronic fatigue.
> >
> > :)
> >
> > Nah its all good as can be expected
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:30 AM
> > Subject: Re: antidepressants (was RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam)
> >
> >
> > > Bill,
> > >
> > > I am so sorry. Is there anything we can do?
> > >
> > > larry
> > >
> > > At 10:26 AM 2/5/03 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >I think this topic jinxed me.
> > > >Last night the wife tried to you know end it all.
> > > >
> > > >So its been a long night at the hospital and hopefully things will
> level
> > out
> > > >again.
> > > >
> > > >Paging dr doom!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Ben Doom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:04 AM
> > > >Subject: RE: antidepressants (was RE: Kid takes OD over his Web Cam)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I wasn't trying to point out a fault in your paper, just making a
> > comment
> > > >on
> > > > > what I agree are typical journal standards. I remember having to
do
> > > > > research for psych class and, after reading four or five articles
> > about a
> > > > > subject, going to the prof and saying "I can tell you that there
is
> > > > > statistically significant evidence it works, what segments of the
> > > >population
> > > > > it seems to work best on, and the fact that it seems to have a
> > noticably
> > > > > increased effect when used in conjunction with treatment x, but I
> > still
> > > > > don't know what the hell it is."
> > > > >
> > > > > Math can be even worse. :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > At least in CS people tend to provide some sort of pseudocode
> > algorithmic
> > > > > description which usually helps you get a "big picture". But, of
> > course,
> > > > > that assumes you know what all the bits and pieces mean. :-)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Ben Doom
> > > > > Programmer & General Lackey
> > > > > Moonbow Software, Inc
> > > > >
> > > > > : -----Original Message-----
> > > > > : From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > : Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:52 AM
> > > > > : To: CF-Community
> > > > > : Subject: RE: antidepressants (was RE: Kid takes OD over his Web
> Cam)
> > > > > :
> > > > > :
> > > > > : At 01:47 PM 2/4/03 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > > : >Um. I'm not sure where I was incorrect. I think we both said
> that
> > > > > : >medication is not nearly as effective by itself as in
> > > > > : conjunction with other
> > > > > : >therapies -- you just were more straightforward.
> > > > > : >
> > > > > : >I was amazed at how much information the article provided
> > > > > : without actually
> > > > > : >giving away much information about what RET or REBT actually
> does.
> > :-)
> > > > > :
> > > > > : Its typical academic journal writing. You are assuming that the
> > reader
> > > > > : knows something about the topic - given that the journal was
> > Clinical
> > > > > : Psychology Review, it was assumed. In the draft that we sent out
> to
> > some
> > > > > : colleagues for comments, I had originally included a section
that
> > > > > : described
> > > > > : RET. The unanimous comment was to get rid of that section, since
> > they
> > > >all
> > > > > : probably knew what it involved.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : In the coding manual, (what our coders used to classify each
> > > > > : study) I had a
> > > > > : fairly detailed description of the different procedures involved
> in
> > RET,
> > > > > : and the coder used a checklist to classify the similarity.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : Still all in all I still would have referred to have a longer
> > > >description
> > > > > : of the methods.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : larry
> > > > > :
> > > > > :
> > > > > :
> > > > > :
> > > > > : --
> > > > > : Larry C. Lyons
> > > > > : ColdFusion/Web Developer
> > > > > : Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
> > > > > : EBStor.com
> > > > > : 8420 Quarry Road
> > > > > : Manassas, Virginia 20110-5326
> > > > > : Web: http://www.ebstor.com
> > > > > : Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> > > > > : --
> > > > > :
> > > > > :
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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