The G3 IS faster than a P4 in the sense that it is much more efficient. But,
that's only if you compare relatively simlar clock cycles. The x86 chips
though have so far outstripped the PowerPC in just raw horsepower that
efficiency doesn't matter anymore.

In this case, more IS more.

I will say though that there is no PC laptop that compares in thinness,
features (built-in everything, no docking) and light weight to the
Powerbooks.

-Kevin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:54 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Ice
>
>
> same hard drive, more memory, better graphics, same CDR/DVD etc.
> even with
> RISC a G3 is not faster than a P4. Don't forget most of those
> benchmarks are
> done with apps like photoshop, that are optimized for the velocity engine,
> specifically for the mac.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben Doom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:45 AM
> Subject: RE: Ice
>
>
> > Define 'better specs', please.
> >
> > Are we talking about RAM and drivespace, etc?  Or are we talking about
> GHz,
> > 'cause you do /not/ want to get into a war with me over RISC and CISC
> chips.
> > :-)
> >
> > My co-workers (all Mac people) are looking at upgrading their
> PowerBooks,
> so
> > I looked at what a Dell Inspiron or whatever the name of the corporate
> > version is would cost for similar features and (lo and behold)
> it came out
> > to be about $2300.
> >
> > So I guess my question boils down to what you consider comparable specs.
> >
> >
> > --  Ben Doom
> >     Programmer & General Lackey
> >     Moonbow Software, Inc
> >
> > : -----Original Message-----
> > : From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > : Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:32 AM
> > : To: CF-Community
> > : Subject: Re: Ice
> > :
> > :
> > : Go look at the cost of titanium:
> > :
> > : Cheapest 12 inch powebook is 1799, I paid 1499 for my 15 inch
> vaio, with
> > : better specs.
> > :
> > : If you want the nice 17 incher gotta break off 3200???  Check out what
> you
> > : can get for 3200 from  Sony for a laptop.
> > :
> > :
> > : ----- Original Message -----
> > : From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > : To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > : Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:28 AM
> > : Subject: Re: Ice
> > :
> > :
> > : > The iBooks are really at the price equivalent of comparible laptops,
> > : > with iBooks starting at less than $1000. The model I have, with the
> > : > 14 inch screen, CD-R/DVD, 700mhz machine etc, going for less than
> > : > $1400. So price is no longer an issue. The tiBooks are even nicer,
> > : > you get a desktop machine that's really a laptop for less
> than $2000.
> > : > the price is no longer an issue I think.
> > : >
> > : > larry
> > : >
> > : > >I do like MACs, but they are just to expensive, when I look at what
> and
> > : > >iBook or Titanium costs, and compare with what I can get PC
> > : wise, it just
> > : > >ain't worth it.
> > : > >
> > : > >----- Original Message -----
> > : > >From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > : > >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > : > >Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:55 AM
> > : > >Subject: Re: Ice
> > : > >
> > : > >
> > : > >>  Yes but you still didn't have to deal with curious ferrets. That
> is
> > : > >>  the real difficult part.
> > : > >>
> > : > >>  I'm very satisfied with this machine. It runs all the software I
> > : > >>  need. Its very light.
> > : > >>
> > : > >>  larry
> > : > >>
> > : > >>  >Larry,
> > : > >>  >
> > : > >>  >I have a Sony Vaio.  Took me 30 seconds to unscrew the
> > : plate covering
> > : the
> > : > >>  >memory on the bottom, another 10 seconds to pop in the
> extra 256
> MB
> > : ram,
> > : > >and
> > : > >>  >about another minutes, (I dropped the screw to screw the plate
> back
> > : on.
> > : > >I
> > : > >>  >run Windows XP, Linux, Win2K and Win98.  Thanks to the
> emulator.
> > : > >>  >
> > : > >>  >Kevin
> > : > >>  >
> > : > >>  >----- Original Message -----
> > : > >>  >From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > : > >>  >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > : > >>  >Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:36 AM
> > : > >>  >Subject: Re: Ice
> > : > >>  >
> > : > >>  >
> > : > >>  >>  It took about 5 minutes to upgrade the memory. Take off the
> > : keyboard,
> > : > >>  >>  remove the Airport card and RAM shield, pop in the new RAM,
> and
> > : then
> > : > >>  >>  put everything back together. 5 minutes, and at least 3 of
> those
> > : were
> > : > >>  >>  spent keeping the ferrets out of the computer.
> > : > >>  >>
> > : > >>  >>  try doing that with your Dell Inspiron.
> > : > >>  >>
> > : > >>  >>  I also run Windows 2000 Advanced Server,  SQL Server
> > : and CF on it.
> > : > >>  >>  All the same time running OSX. Try doing that with
> your Dell.
> > : > >>  >>
> > : > >>  >>  PC laptops are for wimps.
> > : > >>  >>
> > : > >>  >>  larry
> > : > >>  >>
> > : > >>  >>  >iBook? A Mac?  ugh.....drops anti-Mac bomb and runs!
> > : > >>  >Aahahhahhaahahah.....
> > : > >>  >>  >
> > : > >>  >>  >----- Original Message -----
> > : > >>  >>  >From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > : > >>  >>  >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > : > >>  >>  >Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:24 AM
> > : > >>  >>  >Subject: RE: Ice
> > : > >>  >>  >
> > : > >>  >>  >
> > : > >>  >>  >>  I switched out the battery last night when I was
> > : upgrading the
> > : > >iBook
> > : > >>  >>  >>  to 640mb. I guess I forgot to reset the date and
> > : time. Let me
> > : know
> > : > >if
> > : > >>  >>  >>  its correct.
> > : > >>  >>  >>
> > : > >>  >>  >>  larry
> > : > >>  >>  >>
> > : > >>  >>  >>  >Larry, why are your messages coming through
> date stamped
> in
> > : the
> > : > >70's?
> > : > >>  >>  >>  >I mean wishing you were living in the past is one thing
> ...
> > : ;)
> > : > >>  >>  >>  >
> > : > >>  >>  >>  >Cheers,
> > : > >>  >>  >>  >Erika
> > : > >>  >>  >>  >--------------------------------
> > : > >>  >>  >>  >
> > : > >>  >>  >>  >>>| -----Original Message-----
> > : > >>  >>  >>  >>>| From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > : > >>  >>  >>  >>>| Sent: Saturday, January 03, 1970 10:38 AM
> > : > >>  >>  >>  >>>| To: CF-Community
> > : > >>  >>  >>  >>>| Subject: Re: Ice
> > : > >>  >>  >>  >>>|
> > : > >>  >>  >>  >>>|
> > : > >>  >>  >>  >>>| It reputed to  be about the best coffee available.
> For
> > : years
> > : > >it
> > : > >>  >was
> > : > >  > >>  >>  >>>| sold only to a very exclusive group. Now
> its merely
> > : > >  > >>  >>  >>>| expensive, around
> > : > >  > >>  >>  >>>| $40 per pound. I was very lucky in getting it
> > : for about
> > : half
> > : > >  > >that.
> > : > >  > >>  >>  >>>| About the next best coffee is called Celebes
> Kalossi -
> > : IMNSHO
> > : > >>  >that
> > : > >>  >>  >>  >>>| is. Its around 10 to $15 a pound.
> > : > >>  >>  >>  >
> > : > >>  >>  >>  >
> > : > >>  >>  >>
> > : > >>  >>  >
> > : > >>  >>
> > : > >>  >
> > : > >>
> > : > >
> > : >
> > :
> >
> 
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