I'm not even nice enough to say I question it. I think it's blatantly unconstitutional.
Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Graeme [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 11:16 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Wolfowitz: Iraq war was about oil > > I question the constitutionality of the War Powers Act. > > -Kevin > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 8:52 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Wolfowitz: Iraq war was about oil > > > > > > There is still some debate over the constitutionality of the > > Iraqi invasion. First, the Present has the authority granted > > under the War Powers Act to invade anywhere he chooses. In > > the Iraq case, he did have the blessing of the US congress, > > both in support for his action, and the provision of a budget > > to pay for it. There are many scholars who will consider > > this combined action as tantamount to a declaration of war. > > Another thing is that the US has officially declared war on > > terrorism, although it is still to be proved the terrorism > > connection with Iraq. Unless the administration hangs its > > hat on the publicly known financial support (pension plan) > > for the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. No one > > thinks the Palestine suicide bombers are any threat to the > > US, just to Israel. > > > > Perhaps this is why there is so much effort with the RMTP to > > get a Nobel Peace Prize award, which would no doubt assist > > with his re-election campaign. > > > > As far as the Chinese oil connection, and while it is little > > publicized, China controls the as yet undeveloped South China > > Sea Oil, which has been reported to contain reserves equal or > > exceeding all the known reserves A big US player in that > > endeavor is, of course, Exxon-Mobil. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike Randolph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 8:23 PM > > Subject: Re: Wolfowitz: Iraq war was about oil > > > > > > | Hello, > > | > > | It was always about oil and there really isn't any debate > > | there...none, nada, zero, zilch. > > | > > | So you have to ask yourself WHY would this administration be so > > | willing to put us at an even greater risk of terrorism though their > > | actions and kill world opinion of the USA so quickly or easily. > > | > > | 1. Money...Iraq had converted to the EURO for it's oil dealings, if > > | others in OPEC had followed suit the US dollar could quite > > likely of > > | tanked. > > | > > | 2. Money...Their just greedy oil barons.. Doubtful since by > > attacking > > | Iraq we guaranteed that we'd be thrown out of Saudi Arabia > > a source of > > | oil we already had 'control over'....which is now happened. > > | > > | 3. Asymmetric Warfare with Strategic Competitors (China)...quite > > | likely. > > | > > | Many believe the real issue at hand is the long term threat > > of China > > | capturing those oil wells, if they would have it <could> of lead to > > | total world domination by China. There is/was a huge power vacuum > > | created when Russia fell apart and China had been filling > > that vacuum. > > | China is the true long term threat of the United States and > > ultimately > > | the free world. I don't believe in Bush's NWO, but then I > > don't speak > > | Chinese either so I guess I'm screwed either way. > > | > > | Bush congressional ally says China run by 'decrepit > > tyrants' (lump's > > | them in with the axis of evil) > > | http://sg.news.yahoo.com/030603/1/3bhzt.html > > | > > | Remember our bombing of the embassy when they were trying to figure > > | out how to track our stealth planes and the latest incident the spy > > | plane being rammed by the nimble fighter. Also North Korea > > is nothing > > | but the lips and teeth of China and look at their tone towards the > > | US...it's really China's tone. When China has something > > inflammatory > > | to say...North Korea says it instead. > > | > > | Either way the war WAS unconstitutional and has damaged my beloved > > | homeland internationally to say the least. Maybe everyone will take > > | the time to read the constitution and note that the > > President doesn't > > | have the authority to declare war and vote out of office those that > > | abdicated their responsibility to him on a silver platter. > > I won't go > > | into the abuse of the Executive Order in the last 10 or so > > | administrations! > > | > > | ... The end justifies the means? > > | > > | Best, > > | Mike Randolph > > | > > | At 07:46 PM 6/4/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > | >Of course that is what I have held the opinion on since > > the get go, > > | >but > > flames > > | >were vociferous about it not being about oil. > > | > > > | >The country who controls Iraqi oil, controls the pricing of the > > | >entire > > region, > > | >and could break the back of Saudi Arabia and Iran's > > economies. This > > | >is why ARAMCO is chomping at the bit to get either a > > direct contract > > | >or a > > Halliburton > > | >sub-contract. > > | > > > | >====================================== > > | >Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! > > | >For CF hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com > > | >ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 > > | >====================================== > > | >If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! > > | > > > | >----- Original Message ----- > > | >From: "Howie Hamlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > | >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > | >Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 6:42 PM > > | >Subject: Wolfowitz: Iraq war was about oil > > | > > > | > > > | >| Oil was the main reason for military action against > > Iraq, a leading > > | >| White > > | >House hawk has claimed, confirming the worst fears of > > those opposed > > | >to the US-led war. > > | >| > > | >| The US deputy defence secretary, Paul Wolfowitz - who has already > > undermined > > | >Tony Blair's position over weapons of mass destruction (WMD) by > > | >describing them as a "bureaucratic" excuse for war - has now gone > > | >further by claiming the > > real > > | >motive was that Iraq is "swimming" in oil. > > | >| > > | >| http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,970335,00.html > > | >| > > | > > > | > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
