William - 

BS read what you wrote.

And if you are in the church, it's just to light the candles with all your
flames.

M

-----Original Message-----
From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 1:41 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Operation Iraqi Eradication

> The church of the middle ages in NO WAY represents the modern church

Didn't say that it did...

> mass was conducted in latin and sometimes greek

Mass was conducted in Latin (officially) in the Catholic church until ~1965,
the Second Vatican Council (aka Vatican II) under Pope John XXIII --
http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/ officially
put an end to that practice.

<snip url http://www.hamptonroads.com/pilotonline/news/nw1222kne.html>
The Second Vatican Council, held from from 1962 to 1965, aimed to create a
spiritual renewal of the church. Liturgical reforms, such as ending the
requirement that priests speak in Latin while leading worship, encouraged
the participation of lay Catholics in church services. </snip>

> Stop talking about something you know absolutely nothing about, it's 
> ignorant and offensive and doesn't reflect well on you.

Really...I've been Catholic for 34 years (since about two weeks after I was
born), so thanks very much for the suggestion. Guess I'll take it under
advisement...

or not...
:)

will
----- Original Message -----
From: "Haggerty, Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 10:18 AM
Subject: RE: Operation Iraqi Eradication


> The church of the middle ages in NO WAY represents the modern church. 
> The mass was conducted in latin and sometimes greek, the 'teachings' 
> were not unifed between the Jesuits and other sects within the church, 
> the leaders
of
> the church occupied positions of political power more in keeping with 
> a
head
> of state than what the current Catholic church represents. Just as 
> times change, so does the role of the church in secular life.
>
> Stop talking about something you know absolutely nothing about, it's 
> ignorant and offensive and doesn't reflect well on you.
>
> M
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:02 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Operation Iraqi Eradication
>
>
> right.
>
> and though they might have been called "christians" at the time; the 
> teachings, worship services, etc. were what are today known as 
> "Catholic"
>
> will
>
> 

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