Hello Angel,

Thanks for your opinion, I've receive a number of emails directly from 
people with community managers that feel the same way it isn't 
fair.  Please re-read the thread carefully you will also note other 
'credible' people feel it isn't fair either.

VOTING:
The bottom line in regards to the CFDJ is clearly rigging the vote box in 
favor of it's advertisers.  This has always been nothing but a subscription 
drive for CFDJ, and if were able to drive more legitimate subscribers to 
their site then that's always been a win.  This year the 'winners' have 
really just bought the award and everyone should be aware when they go to 
choose there next ColdFusion product purchase.  BTW: We wanted a legitimate 
win with legitimate voters and legitimate rules, if I was being suspicious 
would I bring it up in a public form and would we be behind...na, your 
logic is flawed.

It's like advertising a president up for election on FOX news channel and
then congress giving everyone that's seen the FOX ad's twice as much voting
power as the rest. Who do you think would win? There wouldn't of been any
Florida debate, it would of been a landslide victory for the 2x power voters.

CATEOGORIES:

If the Blue Dragon SERVER is in the most Innovative CF APPLICATION category 
shouldn't ColdFusion MX be and if so what category does my application go in?

I think that is pretty simple and if CFDJ had an eye to fairness (and not 
their advertisers) they would of removed BlueDragons SERVER from the 
APPLICATION category.    Either ColdFusion MX should be going head to head 
with them or they shouldn't be there.  Please note that lots of Macromedia 
applications were entered, yet ColdFusion MX server was not entered into 
application category.

On our product ...I've had many OO programmers tell me it is a great 
foundation.  One long time customer whom had upgraded from our 3.0 product, 
recently told me he was VERY dissatisfied with our total leveraging of the 
new CFMX platform using CFMX/Java , but then a few days later it was 
starting to grow on him.   A major motion picture company just went with 
our JSP/Java product after reviewing other options and that ain't no 'fish 
story'..:)

Kind Regards,
Mike Randolph





>Hmm..
>
>I don't even think Able Commerce should be ranked that high in the first
>place.
>
>And I find the 'argument' about who's votes count the most quite
>specious.
>
>I find nothing wrong with people who have only just subscribed to the
>magazine having less of a say than long time subscribers.
>People could subscribe just in order to vote. Or companies could have
>their staff subscribe to vote for their product. Therefore it makes
>sense to make those who have been subscribed longer, i.e. are not 'just
>registering to vote for a product', have a greater say.
>
>It is insulting to insinuate that members of CFDJ would vote according
>to how many nice flashy ads they see in the magazine, and not based on
>their own experiences,product reviews and their own knowledge.
>
>I see nothing wrong with this procedure.
>
>The only thing wrong I see about this whole thing is
>
>A) Pehaps Fusetalk was placed in the wrong Category.
>B) Ablecommerce got too many votes.
>C) The entire rant about the voting process and the following picture
>etc. appears to me to be quite puerile.
>D) Ablecommerce let you loose on these mailing lists. I think they're
>going to have to hire a Community Manager after you're done to regain
>customer
>    confidence.
>
>Oh..and I'm speaking for myself here, not for my company.
>FYI.
>
>-Gel
>
>
>
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Randolph"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 1:17 AM
> > > Subject: Re: CFDJ Heaviest Advertiser awards...
>
>
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