I typed 'specious'. Not 'suspicious'. It was not a spelling error.

I STILL don't see anything wrong with giving long time subscribers more
points than first time subscribers.

Feel free to argue about product placement, products that weren't
included in certain categories, or products that weren't included at
all. 
To me that's a different argument, and not what I'm taking issue with.I
conceded that IMHO some of the product placements were wrong.

I disagree about your point of view about the voting procedure.

Your analogy is flawed. 
Only people that view Fox can vote in the first place.Only people that
register with CFDJ either as a full subscriber or for the vote, are
allowed to vote. i.e. they aren't letting anyone who has not seen
Fox/CFDJ vote period. 
They are allowing long time viewers of Fox to have more of a say than
people who only just started looking for the express purpose of voting
for 'their' product.

And forgive me if I'm a little less than confident about the sapience of
your statements.
You're the same individual that made vociferous predictions of the
abandonment of CFMX by Macromedia, and expressed your certainty that it
was a dead language.(but of course you and your team were still going to
support it to the best of your ability.)

Now you are complaining that your CFMX based product didn't score as
well as you think it should when pitted against other CF products and
blaming the voting method. 

-Gel

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Randolph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Hello Angel,

Thanks for your opinion, I've receive a number of emails directly from 
people with community managers that feel the same way it isn't 
fair.  Please re-read the thread carefully you will also note other 
'credible' people feel it isn't fair either.

VOTING:
The bottom line in regards to the CFDJ is clearly rigging the vote box
in 
favor of it's advertisers.  This has always been nothing but a
subscription 
drive for CFDJ, and if were able to drive more legitimate subscribers to

their site then that's always been a win.  This year the 'winners' have 
really just bought the award and everyone should be aware when they go
to 
choose there next ColdFusion product purchase.  BTW: We wanted a
legitimate 
win with legitimate voters and legitimate rules, if I was being
suspicious 
would I bring it up in a public form and would we be behind...na, your 
logic is flawed.

It's like advertising a president up for election on FOX news channel
and then congress giving everyone that's seen the FOX ad's twice as much
voting power as the rest. Who do you think would win? There wouldn't of
been any Florida debate, it would of been a landslide victory for the 2x
power voters.

CATEOGORIES:

If the Blue Dragon SERVER is in the most Innovative CF APPLICATION
category 
shouldn't ColdFusion MX be and if so what category does my application
go in?

I think that is pretty simple and if CFDJ had an eye to fairness (and
not 
their advertisers) they would of removed BlueDragons SERVER from the 
APPLICATION category.    Either ColdFusion MX should be going head to
head 
with them or they shouldn't be there.  Please note that lots of
Macromedia 
applications were entered, yet ColdFusion MX server was not entered into

application category.

On our product ...I've had many OO programmers tell me it is a great 
foundation.  One long time customer whom had upgraded from our 3.0
product, 
recently told me he was VERY dissatisfied with our total leveraging of
the 
new CFMX platform using CFMX/Java , but then a few days later it was 
starting to grow on him.   A major motion picture company just went with

our JSP/Java product after reviewing other options and that ain't no
'fish 
story'..:)

Kind Regards,
Mike Randolph



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