Michael, Cynical response: Question is, can you name a politician who has enough of a following to make it to president who hasn't had to be a mouthpiece for the powers that be at one point in their careers?
Balanced response: There is much we don't know about what happened, most critically, how much has he be able to affect policy by working within versus running at first sign of major disagreement. We also don't really know what happened in this meeting. So if you believed in him before this report, perhaps you might give him the benefit of the doubt without forgetting this as a possible sign of weakness. I, for one, hope that people don't always believe everything they hear about me! :-) Andy -----Original Message----- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 12:03 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Colin Powell: "This is BS" His backstory once made him very attractive to me as a candidate. Problem is, he's become just another mouthpiece for the powers that be and is just not someone I'd vote for anymore. Just as an aside, let me throw this into the mix. http://www.pbs.org/newshour/extra/teachers/lessonplans/iraq/powelldoctrine_s hort .html His military doctrine about when and how to use force. Seems he feel it only applies to himself, not to others.... > I dunno... I could conceive of voting for him and I am sure as hell not a > Republican. This may change if he appears to have been dishonest. I also > wondered if he wasn't the source for that story. > > Dana > > jon hall writes: > > > Perhaps it may appear so on the surface, but I really can't agree. The > > administration want's Powell to be a "yes man", but obviously he > > doesn't like it. Cheney is the one who originally wrote the BS in the > > first place. > > Much has been made about Powell disagreeing with the administration on > > a lot of issues. The problem is that he is outnumbered in the White > > House with Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rice usually lining up against him. > > > > My take is the almost extreme opposite of this somehow being a sign of > > weakness on Powell's part. I see it as a sign of strength that he > > disagree's so much with the party line, but refuses to try and make it > > an issue of right and wrong in the public eye. Especially since the > > American voter only really cares about the truth when their party > > doesn't have the White House. I doubt Powell would have gained more > > Democratic supporters than Republican supporters he would have lost if > > he refused to go along with the White House. > > > > When it comes down to it, the first black man to have a chance of > > becoming President has more important things to worry about than > > whether or not one reason to go to war with Iraq is better than > > another. > > He has a strong support base on the right currently and can't > > let the media screw up his image by painting him as a maverick, and I > > can't help but draw a parallel between David Palmer in the show 24, > > and Powell. Playing ball now will go a long way in the future. > > > > -- > > jon > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Monday, June 2, 2003, 10:24:00 PM, you wrote: > > MD> Powell, who I once thought I respected, is nothing more than a "yes man" for > > MD> Bush and the forces in the state department. He is definitely not in charge of > > MD> anything. > > > > > > >> On the evening of February 1, two dozen American officials gathered in a > > MD> spacious conference room at the Central Intelligence Agency in Langley, Va. The > > MD> time had come to make the public case for war against Iraq. For six hours that > > MD> Saturday, the men and women of the Bush administration argued about what > > MD> Secretary of State Colin Powell should--and should not--say at the United > > MD> Nations Security Council four days later. Not all the secret intelligence about > > MD> Saddam Hussein's misdeeds, they found, stood up to close scrutiny. At one point > > MD> during the rehearsal, Powell tossed several pages in the air. "I'm not reading > > MD> this," he declared. "This is bulls- - -." > > >> > > >> http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/030609/usnews/9intell.htm > > >> > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
