Maybe. I would have to think about that. If you are correct then this might be a good time to buy stock in computer companies :) I still think that the primary effect of the tax cut will be an income transfer to potential donors <cynicism>as no doubt intended</cynicism> but possibly there might also be some effect such as you describe. It boils down to this: if you were the CEO of Sun and you )personally, not the company) were getting a check for a few million, what would you do with it....would you stick it in your retirement account or buy a LearJet or what? It boils down to a philosophical question, like the chicken and the egg worker/executive thing. That one of course may actually depend on whether the product is tangible (like a table) or intangible (like Disney).
Dana On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 23:09:59 -0500, Kevin Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well we are to the which came first argument now, which can be argued > indefinetely. > > I may not be hiring anyone, but imagine if like me thousands of small > business owners go out and start purchasing technology or other > equipment, I > read today about a manufacturing company that said they were going to buy > all new equipment. Those purchases lead to sales growth which leads to > job > creation, while I may not be hiring anyone, my purchases along with other > small business purchases may create new jobs at the manufacturer level. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 11:05 PM > Subject: Re: Iraqi oil - from the trenches > > >> true, I hadn't realized the implications of the amortization provisions. >> But will you be hiring anybody? I think that is how most people >> interpret >> "expand"... job creation. >> >> As for the executive and the worker... I think you are wrong. I think >> the >> executive has a job because of the worker. Nothing happens in business >> until someone has a product. >> >> Dana >> >> On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:57:55 -0500, Kevin Schmidt >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> > Well chances are, the the taxpayer has a job because of the executive. >> > >> > As far as the small business benefit, I can buy new equipment, and >> write >> > off >> > the whole amount, which is a huge benefit. Mean I don't have to > ammortize >> > over several years. So you can bet come end of year i'll be buying as >> > much >> > tech stuff as I can afford as it will reduce the amount I have to pay >> in >> > taxes as I can write it all off at once, so that is huge for me and I >> am >> > not >> > among the "rich" >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 10:48 PM >> > Subject: Re: Iraqi oil - from the trenches >> > >> > >> >> Yeah its a benefit all right. The executive just benefits a couple of >> >> hundred times more. >> >> >> >> Just like that tax cut. I was reading today about how Bush is still >> >> saying >> >> it will help small businesses expand. ::snicker:: If I amend my >> return >> >> to >> >> not take my disaster loss deductions I *might* get $500 bucks and >> >> yepper, >> >> I'll expand with that, I'll expand my hard drive is what I'll do.... >> >> >> >> I am beginning to think the Bush administration is operating on the >> Big >> > Lie >> >> principle. If you say it often enough with a straight face, people >> will >> >> believe it. Reminds me of a story that ran in Sunday's Journal (print >> >> edition). I looked for a link to it afterwards and did not find it on >> >> the >> >> Journal site or elsewhere on the internet, but apparently some huge >> >> percentage of Americans truly believe that Saddam Hussein had weapons > of >> >> mass destruction and we found them, And also that some of the 9/11 >> >> hijackers were Iraqi. And they believe this because their government >> > wants >> >> them to. It is to weep. >> >> >> >> Dana >> >> >> >> On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:35:23 -0500, Kevin Schmidt >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > The taxpayer has a job doesn't he. Sounds like a benefit to me. :) >> >> > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 10:20 PM >> >> > Subject: Re: Iraqi oil - from the trenches >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> and the taxpayer that works at that oil refinery probably isn't >> >> >> benefiting >> >> >> much from that windfall. Chances are it is all going to bonuses >> for >> >> the >> >> >> executives :) >> >> >> >> >> >> Dana >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 23:03:09 -0400, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> nacho.com> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > No the tax payer who works at the American oil company refining > the >> >> >> oil >> >> >> > has a job, that job assists the American people. The crude oil >> has >> >> to >> >> >> be >> >> >> > refined, the Navy isn't going to do it, so the American company >> >> that >> >> > buys >> >> >> > it does. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > At 04:47 PM 6/16/2003 -0600, you wrote: >> >> >> >> why doesnt it make sense? The taxpayer and citizen gets >> screwed. >> > SOP. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dana >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:41:09 -0400, Angel Stewart >> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > So what? Americans are screwing themselves? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > If an oil company gets oil for next to nothing..and then >> sells >> >> it >> >> > over >> >> >> >> > to the American Military at a high cost..who's getting >> screwed? >> >> >> >> > It doesn't make sense. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > It is circular. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > -Gel >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >> >> >> > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > I am not sure I understand what it is that you don't > understand. >> >> >> You >> >> >> >> can >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > make money by cutting costs or by gaining customers. Seems to > me >> > in >> >> >> >> this >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > instance the oil companies cut the Iraqis out of the deal on > the >> >> >> >> supply >> >> >> >> > side and benefit from increased demand by the military, who >> are >> > not >> >> >> >> > known for being picky about price. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Dana >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
