Well it wasnt clinton calling the shots for what the FBI did, just becuase
he was the CIC at the time doesnt mean he had any control over the problems
with mr lee. If you got some kinda proof it was his fault post it up. I
would find it hard to believe though.


"When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. Sure, I was good
with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it puts people off!"
Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: well now


> ::sigh:: He didn't break the rules. My point is that that was Clinton and
> it was wrong.
>
> Dana
>
> William Wheatley writes:
>
> > what were you trying to get me to see the other day? We were talking
about a
> > guy who broke the rules and got completely screwed because he did. We
talked
> > 0 about clinton and such.
> >
> > You might be referring to someone else besides me
> >
> >
> > "When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. Sure, I was
good
> > with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it puts people
off!"
> > Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond"
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 12:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: well now
> >
> >
> > > it looks fishy because the vice president of the United States is
still
> > > receiving money from these folks. Of couse that is his golden
parachute
> > and
> > > of course he has nothing to do with awarding the contract. Oh and of
> > course
> > > it isn't about the oil.
> > >
> > > When the contract wsa first awarded is irrelevant. Wrong is wrong
under
> > > Clinton or under Bush, as I was trying to get Bill to see the other
day.
> > > Maybe there had to be an inital no-bid contract for the reasons you
> > > outline. But what is the justification for extending it? Possibly
> > > Halliburton would win. But that would not make the bidding process a
waste
> > > of time. Are elections a waste of time?
> > >
> > > Dana
> > >
> > > Nick McClure writes:
> > >
> > > > So in the last month the cost has gone up, probably because they
have
> > more
> > > > work to do now that the sanctions have been lifted and legal oil is
> > actually
> > > > being shipped out of Iraq.
> > > >
> > > > The first "no bid" contract was awarded to Kellogg Brown & Root in
1992,
> > and
> > > > lasted until 1999, where the Clinton administration got an extension
on
> > the
> > > > contract until 2004. So the current contract for Kellogg Brown &
Root
> > which
> > > > is the one this article complains the most about was awarded by the
> > Clinton
> > > > Administration.
> > > >
> >
(http://www.bayarea.com/mld/cctimes/news/special_packages/iraq/dispatches/59
> > > > 72319.htm)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Here is how the system works, which is very similar to other long
term
> > > > contracts I am personally familiar with:
> > > >
> > > > This no-bid contract thing isn't exactly what it sounds like. There
is a
> > > > contract which says Halliburton is the primary supplier of X
services.
> > They
> > > > agree to Y terms. In much the same way a large corporation purchases
> > office
> > > > supplies for instance. The terms in Y probably include basics costs
for
> > the
> > > > services needed.
> > > >
> > > > The State of Kentucky has a contract with Cardinal Office Supplies,
they
> > > > agreed on terms, but there isn't a limit to what the state can
spend,
> > except
> > > > of course what the legislature budgets for office supplies, but that
is
> > not
> > > > something Cardinal has any involvement in.
> > > >
> > > > The state contract stipulates that the state must acquire all office
> > > > supplies from Cardinal unless Cardinal does not offer the product,
or it
> > is
> > > > needed immediately, or a few other things.
> > > >
> > > > The contract with Halliburton is the same way. The Military has had
a
> > > > contract with them for the past 11 years, a new contract was awarded
> > > > recently.
> > > >
> > > > If the Military has to deploy troops tomorrow, they need to have a
> > support
> > > > agreement in place to handle it. The contract with Halliburton does
just
> > > > that. It provides a way for the US Military to deploy and worry
about
> > the
> > > > important things, like operations on the battle field. If we have to
> > waste
> > > > two months with a public bidding process, it gives the enemy time to
> > fortify
> > > > defenses, and hell, they can look at the bid and use that to
potentially
> > > > determine some strategies. That is a big maybe, but it is still
> > possible.
> > > >
> > > > What I find most amusing, when these same contracts were awarded
under
> > the
> > > > Clinton administration, nobody seems to care, when the same things
> > occurred
> > > > under the Clinton administration, nobody seems to care. If the
current
> > > > administration does exactly the same thing, then it looks fishy.
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 11:01 AM
> > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > Subject: well now
> > > > >
> > > > > I was cruising around working on wrting up an explanation for Nick
of
> > why
> > > > > the Iraqi oil thing smells so much like a conspiracy to me, and I
came
> > > > > across this little gem, which was so special I just had to post it
all
> > on
> > > > > its own.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.khilafah.com/home/category.php?DocumentID=7517&TagID=2
> > > > >
> > > > > The source is obviously Arab and a fast check didnt reveal any
> > ownership
> > > > > info, but... it's highly interesting, whether you look at it as
fact
> > or as
> > > > > propaganda.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dana
> > > > >
> > > > > But I don't make films
> > > > > But if I did they'd have a samurai - Bare Naked Ladies
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
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