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I already posted this.

Dana

William Wheatley writes:

> Well it wasnt clinton calling the shots for what the FBI did, just becuase
> he was the CIC at the time doesnt mean he had any control over the problems
> with mr lee. If you got some kinda proof it was his fault post it up. I
> would find it hard to believe though.
> 
> 
> "When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. Sure, I was good
> with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it puts people off!"
> Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond"
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 2:56 PM
> Subject: Re: well now
> 
> 
> > ::sigh:: He didn't break the rules. My point is that that was Clinton and
> > it was wrong.
> >
> > Dana
> >
> > William Wheatley writes:
> >
> > > what were you trying to get me to see the other day? We were talking
> about a
> > > guy who broke the rules and got completely screwed because he did. We
> talked
> > > 0 about clinton and such.
> > >
> > > You might be referring to someone else besides me
> > >
> > >
> > > "When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. Sure, I was
> good
> > > with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it puts people
> off!"
> > > Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond"
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 12:54 PM
> > > Subject: Re: well now
> > >
> > >
> > > > it looks fishy because the vice president of the United States is
> still
> > > > receiving money from these folks. Of couse that is his golden
> parachute
> > > and
> > > > of course he has nothing to do with awarding the contract. Oh and of
> > > course
> > > > it isn't about the oil.
> > > >
> > > > When the contract wsa first awarded is irrelevant. Wrong is wrong
> under
> > > > Clinton or under Bush, as I was trying to get Bill to see the other
> day.
> > > > Maybe there had to be an inital no-bid contract for the reasons you
> > > > outline. But what is the justification for extending it? Possibly
> > > > Halliburton would win. But that would not make the bidding process a
> waste
> > > > of time. Are elections a waste of time?
> > > >
> > > > Dana
> > > >
> > > > Nick McClure writes:
> > > >
> > > > > So in the last month the cost has gone up, probably because they
> have
> > > more
> > > > > work to do now that the sanctions have been lifted and legal oil is
> > > actually
> > > > > being shipped out of Iraq.
> > > > >
> > > > > The first "no bid" contract was awarded to Kellogg Brown & Root in
> 1992,
> > > and
> > > > > lasted until 1999, where the Clinton administration got an extension
> on
> > > the
> > > > > contract until 2004. So the current contract for Kellogg Brown &
> Root
> > > which
> > > > > is the one this article complains the most about was awarded by the
> > > Clinton
> > > > > Administration.
> > > > >
> > >
> (http://www.bayarea.com/mld/cctimes/news/special_packages/iraq/dispatches/59
> > > > > 72319.htm)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is how the system works, which is very similar to other long
> term
> > > > > contracts I am personally familiar with:
> > > > >
> > > > > This no-bid contract thing isn't exactly what it sounds like. There
> is a
> > > > > contract which says Halliburton is the primary supplier of X
> services.
> > > They
> > > > > agree to Y terms. In much the same way a large corporation purchases
> > > office
> > > > > supplies for instance. The terms in Y probably include basics costs
> for
> > > the
> > > > > services needed.
> > > > >
> > > > > The State of Kentucky has a contract with Cardinal Office Supplies,
> they
> > > > > agreed on terms, but there isn't a limit to what the state can
> spend,
> > > except
> > > > > of course what the legislature budgets for office supplies, but that
> is
> > > not
> > > > > something Cardinal has any involvement in.
> > > > >
> > > > > The state contract stipulates that the state must acquire all office
> > > > > supplies from Cardinal unless Cardinal does not offer the product,
> or it
> > > is
> > > > > needed immediately, or a few other things.
> > > > >
> > > > > The contract with Halliburton is the same way. The Military has had
> a
> > > > > contract with them for the past 11 years, a new contract was awarded
> > > > > recently.
> > > > >
> > > > > If the Military has to deploy troops tomorrow, they need to have a
> > > support
> > > > > agreement in place to handle it. The contract with Halliburton does
> just
> > > > > that. It provides a way for the US Military to deploy and worry
> about
> > > the
> > > > > important things, like operations on the battle field. If we have to
> > > waste
> > > > > two months with a public bidding process, it gives the enemy time to
> > > fortify
> > > > > defenses, and hell, they can look at the bid and use that to
> potentially
> > > > > determine some strategies. That is a big maybe, but it is still
> > > possible.
> > > > >
> > > > > What I find most amusing, when these same contracts were awarded
> under
> > > the
> > > > > Clinton administration, nobody seems to care, when the same things
> > > occurred
> > > > > under the Clinton administration, nobody seems to care. If the
> current
> > > > > administration does exactly the same thing, then it looks fishy.
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 11:01 AM
> > > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > > Subject: well now
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was cruising around working on wrting up an explanation for Nick
> of
> > > why
> > > > > > the Iraqi oil thing smells so much like a conspiracy to me, and I
> came
> > > > > > across this little gem, which was so special I just had to post it
> all
> > > on
> > > > > > its own.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.khilafah.com/home/category.php?DocumentID=7517&TagID=2
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The source is obviously Arab and a fast check didnt reveal any
> > > ownership
> > > > > > info, but... it's highly interesting, whether you look at it as
> fact
> > > or as
> > > > > > propaganda.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dana
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But I don't make films
> > > > > > But if I did they'd have a samurai - Bare Naked Ladies
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> 
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