>>Are elections a waste of time? Possibly, but I keep voting independant anyway....
-----Original Message----- From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 12:55 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: well now it looks fishy because the vice president of the United States is still receiving money from these folks. Of couse that is his golden parachute and of course he has nothing to do with awarding the contract. Oh and of course it isn't about the oil. When the contract wsa first awarded is irrelevant. Wrong is wrong under Clinton or under Bush, as I was trying to get Bill to see the other day. Maybe there had to be an inital no-bid contract for the reasons you outline. But what is the justification for extending it? Possibly Halliburton would win. But that would not make the bidding process a waste of time. Are elections a waste of time? Dana Nick McClure writes: > So in the last month the cost has gone up, probably because they have more > work to do now that the sanctions have been lifted and legal oil is actually > being shipped out of Iraq. > > The first "no bid" contract was awarded to Kellogg Brown & Root in 1992, and > lasted until 1999, where the Clinton administration got an extension on the > contract until 2004. So the current contract for Kellogg Brown & Root which > is the one this article complains the most about was awarded by the Clinton > Administration. > (http://www.bayarea.com/mld/cctimes/news/special_packages/iraq/dispatches/59 > 72319.htm) > > > Here is how the system works, which is very similar to other long term > contracts I am personally familiar with: > > This no-bid contract thing isn't exactly what it sounds like. There is a > contract which says Halliburton is the primary supplier of X services. They > agree to Y terms. In much the same way a large corporation purchases office > supplies for instance. The terms in Y probably include basics costs for the > services needed. > > The State of Kentucky has a contract with Cardinal Office Supplies, they > agreed on terms, but there isn't a limit to what the state can spend, except > of course what the legislature budgets for office supplies, but that is not > something Cardinal has any involvement in. > > The state contract stipulates that the state must acquire all office > supplies from Cardinal unless Cardinal does not offer the product, or it is > needed immediately, or a few other things. > > The contract with Halliburton is the same way. The Military has had a > contract with them for the past 11 years, a new contract was awarded > recently. > > If the Military has to deploy troops tomorrow, they need to have a support > agreement in place to handle it. The contract with Halliburton does just > that. It provides a way for the US Military to deploy and worry about the > important things, like operations on the battle field. If we have to waste > two months with a public bidding process, it gives the enemy time to fortify > defenses, and hell, they can look at the bid and use that to potentially > determine some strategies. That is a big maybe, but it is still possible. > > What I find most amusing, when these same contracts were awarded under the > Clinton administration, nobody seems to care, when the same things occurred > under the Clinton administration, nobody seems to care. If the current > administration does exactly the same thing, then it looks fishy. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 11:01 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: well now > > > > I was cruising around working on wrting up an explanation for Nick of why > > the Iraqi oil thing smells so much like a conspiracy to me, and I came > > across this little gem, which was so special I just had to post it all on > > its own. > > > > http://www.khilafah.com/home/category.php?DocumentID=7517&TagID=2 > > > > The source is obviously Arab and a fast check didnt reveal any ownership > > info, but... it's highly interesting, whether you look at it as fact or as > > propaganda. > > > > Dana > > > > But I don't make films > > But if I did they'd have a samurai - Bare Naked Ladies > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Host with the leader in ColdFusion hosting. Voted #1 ColdFusion host by CF Developers. Offering shared and dedicated hosting options. www.cfxhosting.com/default.cfm?redirect=10481 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
