Only the IP number in the email header will reveal the true source of the
virus-infected email.

The from address is usually spoofed.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Garza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: how stupid


| Actually, the Klez virus can take any email from the list it's sending from
| and use that email as the From and Reply-To fields.  This happend to my mom.
| I'm sure she doesn't have the Klez virus on her machine yet she still gets
| about 50 bounce messages a day from AOL.  One of the unpleasant
| potentialities of dealing with Klez...  So, Dana, you probably never had the
| virus in the first place and AOL sucks for sending back the entire message,
| virus attachment and all..  Their mail gateway should delete the entier
| message and send a digest of the transaction back to the "purported" sender.
|
| Jeff
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "William Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 10:18 AM
| Subject: Re: how stupid
|
|
| No i wasn't patronizing you but that error message by itself when you read
| it shows that it was rejecting a message you sent. Of course without all the
| facts thats the only conclusion one could come to.
|
| Does the virus send fake emails proporting to be from the ISP? Its easy to
| spoof mail and such that might be a fun virus to have to deal with fake
| Daemon messages that actually have viruses.
|
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 12:27 PM
| Subject: Re: how stupid
|
|
| > Ahem. AOL emailed me the sobig.e virus according to my Norton antivirus.
| > The email has an attachment labeled your_details.zip, which is per the
| > specs for this virus. Naturally I did not open it. But the email is not
| > from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; the email is *from* AOL saying my email to her was not
| > delivered because it has a virus. Which they helpfully included for
| > reference. Now, from the top, this virus claims to be from people who are
| > also in the address book of the original sender. I do not know ruthj and
| > she is not in my address book, and I don't have this virus because norton
| > caught it in this email that AOL sent me.
| >
| > God I hate it when you patronize me, especially when you usually don't
| have
| > a good grasp of what is going on when you do it.
| >
| > Dana
| >
| > On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 12:18:19 -0400, William Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > wrote:
| >
| > > That doesn't say aol sent you a virus that says whoever mailed that ruth
| > > person has a virus that was in their email and they had better fix it.
| > >
| > > But either way aol is evil.
| > >
| > >
| > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 12:12 PM
| > > Subject: Re: how stupid
| > >
| > >
| > >> the AOL user didnt send me the virus. AOL did. I got the following,
| with
| > >> the virus as an attachment.
| > >>
| > >> The original message was received at Thu, 26 Jun 2003 06:09:09 -0400
| > >> (EDT)
| > >> from  [66.72.7.21]
| > >>
| > >> *** ATTENTION ***
| > >> Your e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem with
| > >> its
| > >> delivery.  The address which was undeliverable is listed in the section
| > >> labeled: "----- The following addresses had permanent fatal
| errors -----
| > >> ".
| > >> The reason your mail is being returned to you is listed in the section
| > >> labeled: "----- Transcript of Session Follows -----".
| > >> The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your e-mail
| > >> could
| > >> not be delivered.  The next line contains a second error message which
| > >> is
| > > a
| > >> general translation for other e-mail servers.
| > >> Please direct further questions regarding this message to your e-mail
| > >> administrator.
| > >> --AOL Postmaster
| > >>
| > >>
| > >> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
| > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > >> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
| > >> ... while talking to air-xm03.mail.aol.com.:
| > >> >>> DATA
| > >> <<< 554 TRANSACTION FAILED - Unrepairable Virus Detected. Your mail has
| > > not
| > >> been sent.
| > >> 554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Service unavailable
| > >>
| > >> On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 10:59:06 -0500, Matt Blatchley ~ Bridgeleaf Studios
| > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| > >>
| > >> > Dana,
| > >> >
| > >> > I run into similar issues with AOL users.  I have a few clients who
| > >> > refuse
| > >> > to use the email addresses I setup for them and they send me virus's
| > >> too
| > >> > stating I sent it to them.  Big pain in the ass because I've
| requested
| > >> a
| > >> > response from the folks at AOL, but like you said, the level of
| > >> response
| > >> > is
| > >> > by someone part time and doesn't give two shiznitz about anyone other
| > >> > than
| > >> > their own customers, and that's only if they bitch consistently.  I'd
| > >> > love
| > >> > to rant about them two, but I'll spare the rest of the list my
| opinion
| > > on
| > >> > that issue seeing as how they can all assume my feelings on that one
| > >> > anyway.
| > >> > I feel for ya!
| > >> >
| > >> > Matt
| > >> >
| > >> >
| > >> > -----Original Message-----
| > >> > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| > >> > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 10:34 AM
| > >> > To: CF-Community
| > >> > Subject: how stupid
| > >> >
| > >> >
| > >> > (rant)
| > >> > I was complaining yesterday about getting a little notice scolding me
| > > for
| > >> > allegedly sending a virus to somebody I don't know in Finland. The
| > >> virus
| > >> > in
| > >> > question puts names from the true sender's address book in the "from"
| > >> > field, but apparently the system in question is not set up to check
| ip
| > >> > addresses.
| > >> >
| > >> > I ran an extra virus scan last night to be sure, and no, I don't have
| > >> > this
| > >> > virus. I would not expect to as my virus software scans incoming
| mail.
| > >> >
| > >> > This scan works, as demonstrated by the fact that this morning it
| > >> warned
| > >> > me
| > >> > that someone emailed me a virus. Come to find out it is AOL,
| > >> complaining
| > >> > that I sent this virus to [EMAIL PROTECTED], whom I do not know.
| > >> >
| > >> > The truly astounding thing is that *they mailed the virus to me* --
| is
| > >> > that
| > >> > supposed to prove something? What if I did not in fact have up to
| date
| > >> > software? I used to work at AOL so I am well past expecting
| > >> intelligence
| > >> > from them, but geez, this practice is a threat to the health of the
| > >> > internet. Too bad it doesn't have a WHO.
| > >> >
| > >> > (end rant)
| > >> > Dana
| > >> >
| > >> >
| > >> > --
| > >> > Mr Jones and me
| > >> > We're stumbling through the barrio....
| > >> >
| > >> >
| > >> >
| > >>
| > >
| >
|
| 
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