that would take too much work ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 10:14 PM Subject: Re: how stupid
> yeah strip out the virus or hey if it were *really* intelligent, if it is a > virus that spoofs, don't mail out the notices at all. I mean, what am I > going do about this? It's coming to [EMAIL PROTECTED] which > hundreds, maybe thousands of people have sent mail to since the domain was > first registered in 1996 or 1997....there is no telling who is tha actual > sender. Possibly something could be done with the ip address if you had the > full header, which I don't. > > Dana > > On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 13:48:07 -0400, William Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Its not really that aol sucks its just the way mail works though. Any > > server > > will send back a failed message with most if not all of the orginal > > message > > and attachments attached. > > > > Maybe it will motivate me to write a mail server that when finding > > virus's > > returns the message back to the orginal person it says sent it and strip > > out > > the virus lol. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Garza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 1:27 PM > > Subject: Re: how stupid > > > > > >> Actually, the Klez virus can take any email from the list it's sending > > from > >> and use that email as the From and Reply-To fields. This happend to my > > mom. > >> I'm sure she doesn't have the Klez virus on her machine yet she still > >> gets > >> about 50 bounce messages a day from AOL. One of the unpleasant > >> potentialities of dealing with Klez... So, Dana, you probably never had > > the > >> virus in the first place and AOL sucks for sending back the entire > > message, > >> virus attachment and all.. Their mail gateway should delete the entier > >> message and send a digest of the transaction back to the "purported" > > sender. > >> > >> Jeff > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "William Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 10:18 AM > >> Subject: Re: how stupid > >> > >> > >> No i wasn't patronizing you but that error message by itself when you > >> read > >> it shows that it was rejecting a message you sent. Of course without all > > the > >> facts thats the only conclusion one could come to. > >> > >> Does the virus send fake emails proporting to be from the ISP? Its easy > >> to > >> spoof mail and such that might be a fun virus to have to deal with fake > >> Daemon messages that actually have viruses. > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 12:27 PM > >> Subject: Re: how stupid > >> > >> > >> > Ahem. AOL emailed me the sobig.e virus according to my Norton > >> antivirus. > >> > The email has an attachment labeled your_details.zip, which is per the > >> > specs for this virus. Naturally I did not open it. But the email is > >> not > >> > from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; the email is *from* AOL saying my email to her was not > >> > delivered because it has a virus. Which they helpfully included for > >> > reference. Now, from the top, this virus claims to be from people who > > are > >> > also in the address book of the original sender. I do not know ruthj > >> and > >> > she is not in my address book, and I don't have this virus because > > norton > >> > caught it in this email that AOL sent me. > >> > > >> > God I hate it when you patronize me, especially when you usually don't > >> have > >> > a good grasp of what is going on when you do it. > >> > > >> > Dana > >> > > >> > On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 12:18:19 -0400, William Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > That doesn't say aol sent you a virus that says whoever mailed that > > ruth > >> > > person has a virus that was in their email and they had better fix > >> it. > >> > > > >> > > But either way aol is evil. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Tierney" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 12:12 PM > >> > > Subject: Re: how stupid > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> the AOL user didnt send me the virus. AOL did. I got the following, > >> with > >> > >> the virus as an attachment. > >> > >> > >> > >> The original message was received at Thu, 26 Jun 2003 06:09:09 - > >> 0400 > >> > >> (EDT) > >> > >> from [66.72.7.21] > >> > >> > >> > >> *** ATTENTION *** > >> > >> Your e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem > >> with > >> > >> its > >> > >> delivery. The address which was undeliverable is listed in the > > section > >> > >> labeled: "----- The following addresses had permanent fatal > >> errors ----- > >> > >> ". > >> > >> The reason your mail is being returned to you is listed in the > > section > >> > >> labeled: "----- Transcript of Session Follows -----". > >> > >> The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your > > e-mail > >> > >> could > >> > >> not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message > > which > >> > >> is > >> > > a > >> > >> general translation for other e-mail servers. > >> > >> Please direct further questions regarding this message to your e- > >> mail > >> > >> administrator. > >> > >> --AOL Postmaster > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > >> > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > >> > >> ... while talking to air-xm03.mail.aol.com.: > >> > >> >>> DATA > >> > >> <<< 554 TRANSACTION FAILED - Unrepairable Virus Detected. Your mail > > has > >> > > not > >> > >> been sent. > >> > >> 554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Service unavailable > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 10:59:06 -0500, Matt Blatchley ~ Bridgeleaf > > Studios > >> > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > Dana, > >> > >> > > >> > >> > I run into similar issues with AOL users. I have a few clients > >> who > >> > >> > refuse > >> > >> > to use the email addresses I setup for them and they send me > > virus's > >> > >> too > >> > >> > stating I sent it to them. Big pain in the ass because I've > >> requested > >> > >> a > >> > >> > response from the folks at AOL, but like you said, the level of > >> > >> response > >> > >> > is > >> > >> > by someone part time and doesn't give two shiznitz about anyone > > other > >> > >> > than > >> > >> > their own customers, and that's only if they bitch consistently. > > I'd > >> > >> > love > >> > >> > to rant about them two, but I'll spare the rest of the list my > >> opinion > >> > > on > >> > >> > that issue seeing as how they can all assume my feelings on that > > one > >> > >> > anyway. > >> > >> > I feel for ya! > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Matt > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > >> > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 10:34 AM > >> > >> > To: CF-Community > >> > >> > Subject: how stupid > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > (rant) > >> > >> > I was complaining yesterday about getting a little notice > >> scolding > > me > >> > > for > >> > >> > allegedly sending a virus to somebody I don't know in Finland. > >> The > >> > >> virus > >> > >> > in > >> > >> > question puts names from the true sender's address book in the > > "from" > >> > >> > field, but apparently the system in question is not set up to > >> check > >> ip > >> > >> > addresses. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > I ran an extra virus scan last night to be sure, and no, I don't > > have > >> > >> > this > >> > >> > virus. I would not expect to as my virus software scans incoming > >> mail. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > This scan works, as demonstrated by the fact that this morning it > >> > >> warned > >> > >> > me > >> > >> > that someone emailed me a virus. Come to find out it is AOL, > >> > >> complaining > >> > >> > that I sent this virus to [EMAIL PROTECTED], whom I do not know. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > The truly astounding thing is that *they mailed the virus to me* - > >> > >> > >> - > >> is > >> > >> > that > >> > >> > supposed to prove something? What if I did not in fact have up to > >> date > >> > >> > software? I used to work at AOL so I am well past expecting > >> > >> intelligence > >> > >> > from them, but geez, this practice is a threat to the health of > >> the > >> > >> > internet. Too bad it doesn't have a WHO. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > (end rant) > >> > >> > Dana > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > -- > >> > >> > Mr Jones and me > >> > >> > We're stumbling through the barrio.... > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
