/me nods so it was a spoof which explains it.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Garza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: how stupid


> Actually, the Klez virus can take any email from the list it's sending
from
> and use that email as the From and Reply-To fields.  This happend to my
mom.
> I'm sure she doesn't have the Klez virus on her machine yet she still gets
> about 50 bounce messages a day from AOL.  One of the unpleasant
> potentialities of dealing with Klez...  So, Dana, you probably never had
the
> virus in the first place and AOL sucks for sending back the entire
message,
> virus attachment and all..  Their mail gateway should delete the entier
> message and send a digest of the transaction back to the "purported"
sender.
>
> Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 10:18 AM
> Subject: Re: how stupid
>
>
> No i wasn't patronizing you but that error message by itself when you read
> it shows that it was rejecting a message you sent. Of course without all
the
> facts thats the only conclusion one could come to.
>
> Does the virus send fake emails proporting to be from the ISP? Its easy to
> spoof mail and such that might be a fun virus to have to deal with fake
> Daemon messages that actually have viruses.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 12:27 PM
> Subject: Re: how stupid
>
>
> > Ahem. AOL emailed me the sobig.e virus according to my Norton antivirus.
> > The email has an attachment labeled your_details.zip, which is per the
> > specs for this virus. Naturally I did not open it. But the email is not
> > from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; the email is *from* AOL saying my email to her was not
> > delivered because it has a virus. Which they helpfully included for
> > reference. Now, from the top, this virus claims to be from people who
are
> > also in the address book of the original sender. I do not know ruthj and
> > she is not in my address book, and I don't have this virus because
norton
> > caught it in this email that AOL sent me.
> >
> > God I hate it when you patronize me, especially when you usually don't
> have
> > a good grasp of what is going on when you do it.
> >
> > Dana
> >
> > On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 12:18:19 -0400, William Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > That doesn't say aol sent you a virus that says whoever mailed that
ruth
> > > person has a virus that was in their email and they had better fix it.
> > >
> > > But either way aol is evil.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Tierney"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 12:12 PM
> > > Subject: Re: how stupid
> > >
> > >
> > >> the AOL user didnt send me the virus. AOL did. I got the following,
> with
> > >> the virus as an attachment.
> > >>
> > >> The original message was received at Thu, 26 Jun 2003 06:09:09 -0400
> > >> (EDT)
> > >> from  [66.72.7.21]
> > >>
> > >> *** ATTENTION ***
> > >> Your e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem with
> > >> its
> > >> delivery.  The address which was undeliverable is listed in the
section
> > >> labeled: "----- The following addresses had permanent fatal
> errors -----
> > >> ".
> > >> The reason your mail is being returned to you is listed in the
section
> > >> labeled: "----- Transcript of Session Follows -----".
> > >> The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your
e-mail
> > >> could
> > >> not be delivered.  The next line contains a second error message
which
> > >> is
> > > a
> > >> general translation for other e-mail servers.
> > >> Please direct further questions regarding this message to your e-mail
> > >> administrator.
> > >> --AOL Postmaster
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> > >> ... while talking to air-xm03.mail.aol.com.:
> > >> >>> DATA
> > >> <<< 554 TRANSACTION FAILED - Unrepairable Virus Detected. Your mail
has
> > > not
> > >> been sent.
> > >> 554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Service unavailable
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 10:59:06 -0500, Matt Blatchley ~ Bridgeleaf
Studios
> > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Dana,
> > >> >
> > >> > I run into similar issues with AOL users.  I have a few clients who
> > >> > refuse
> > >> > to use the email addresses I setup for them and they send me
virus's
> > >> too
> > >> > stating I sent it to them.  Big pain in the ass because I've
> requested
> > >> a
> > >> > response from the folks at AOL, but like you said, the level of
> > >> response
> > >> > is
> > >> > by someone part time and doesn't give two shiznitz about anyone
other
> > >> > than
> > >> > their own customers, and that's only if they bitch consistently.
I'd
> > >> > love
> > >> > to rant about them two, but I'll spare the rest of the list my
> opinion
> > > on
> > >> > that issue seeing as how they can all assume my feelings on that
one
> > >> > anyway.
> > >> > I feel for ya!
> > >> >
> > >> > Matt
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 10:34 AM
> > >> > To: CF-Community
> > >> > Subject: how stupid
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > (rant)
> > >> > I was complaining yesterday about getting a little notice scolding
me
> > > for
> > >> > allegedly sending a virus to somebody I don't know in Finland. The
> > >> virus
> > >> > in
> > >> > question puts names from the true sender's address book in the
"from"
> > >> > field, but apparently the system in question is not set up to check
> ip
> > >> > addresses.
> > >> >
> > >> > I ran an extra virus scan last night to be sure, and no, I don't
have
> > >> > this
> > >> > virus. I would not expect to as my virus software scans incoming
> mail.
> > >> >
> > >> > This scan works, as demonstrated by the fact that this morning it
> > >> warned
> > >> > me
> > >> > that someone emailed me a virus. Come to find out it is AOL,
> > >> complaining
> > >> > that I sent this virus to [EMAIL PROTECTED], whom I do not know.
> > >> >
> > >> > The truly astounding thing is that *they mailed the virus to me* --
> is
> > >> > that
> > >> > supposed to prove something? What if I did not in fact have up to
> date
> > >> > software? I used to work at AOL so I am well past expecting
> > >> intelligence
> > >> > from them, but geez, this practice is a threat to the health of the
> > >> > internet. Too bad it doesn't have a WHO.
> > >> >
> > >> > (end rant)
> > >> > Dana
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Mr Jones and me
> > >> > We're stumbling through the barrio....
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
> 
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