their hiring criteria are not real high and they have a 5 minute call time
so there are big incentives not to dig too deep into the caller's problem.
Some techs used to hang up on people; these were usually the ones that got
promoted :)

Dana

PS = since we ave been having this little converation back and forth I
should probably let you know I am heading out to brunch now.


Dan Phillips writes:

> Oh I know just what you mean. And normally when you call AOL (no
> offence, I know you worked there) most of the techs just say "reinstall
> AOL" which sometimes adds a duplicate AOL adapter which makes matters
> worse. 
> 
> When I was on AOL (back in the 2.0/3.0 days) I only had to contact
> support twice. One time I called because I had a cheap modem and needed
> the modem string for it so I could dial in. I was told to uninstall AOL.
> The other time was when they had a Netscape version that would work with
> AOL. You could find it by using keyword "Netscape". I had to reinstall
> it one day but could not find any reference to Netscape. Their online
> support then told me that they never offered Netscape. This was around
> the time that they added IE to the software. Veddy Interstink. 
> 
> Dan Phillips
> www.CFXHosting.com 
> 1-866-239-4678
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 1:03 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Webcasst Feedback
> 
> 
> well see if you use AOL at all it installs the AOL adapter. On some
> machines -- I never did understand why only some -- the mere presence of
> the AOL adapter trashes TCP/IP. Wich can be fixed in 20 minutes if you
> know how but is endless with a newbie that thinks it is easier to just
> use AOL.
> 
> Anyway, they are thinking that the alternates are not reliable because
> the TCP/IP keeps going down, and they refuse to believe AOL might be a
> cause of this. That's bashing.
> 
> Dana
> 
> Dan Phillips writes:
> 
> > more reliable = I'm too lazy to click the mouse two more times a day 
> > to get my mail/home page.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 12:45 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Webcasst Feedback
> > 
> > 
> > well when I worked for other isps I really hated the relunctant 
> > convert from AOL because the AOL adapter trashes the TCP/IP stack and 
> > then you have to remove it, restart, re-add, and all this with someone
> 
> > going omg, it isnt this hard to get on AOL... and sure enough they 
> > would get back on AOL at some point and it would need to be done 
> > again... about half of them went back to AOL because it was "more 
> > reliable"...
> > 
> > Dana
> > 
> > Dan Phillips writes:
> > 
> > > Preach on Sister Dana! I've been in the industry and online for many
> > > years and I know how some AOLers are and how crappy their software
> can
> > 
> > > be. When 5.0 came out I was going bench work and I hated AOL. Why? 
> > > 5.0
> > 
> > > took over all network settings and if you uninstalled it? Don't even
> > > ask.
> > > 
> > > I have a rant saved somewhere about AOL on an old blogg I used to 
> > > run.
> > 
> > > It focused really on what AOL did for the internet as far as 
> > > bringing
> > > people online who never would have (or never should have) thought 
> > > about being on the web.
> > > 
> > > Dan Phillips
> > > www.CFXHosting.com
> > > 1-866-239-4678
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 12:08 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: Webcasst Feedback
> > > 
> > > 
> > > (rant)
> > > 
> > > The AOL browser *is* wonky, and I speak as a former AOL tech support
> > > person. The "gateway" to the internet was constantly going down 
> > > (1996?) and the company attitude was more or less who needs the 
> > > internet when they have our content. AOL users are also frequently 
> > > incredibly defensive. You tell them that they can get better service
> 
> > > for less and they say but I like to IM... you tell them they don't 
> > > need AOL for that and they say you are bashing, poor widdle AOL....
> > > 
> > > (end rant)
> > > 
> > > Dan Phillips writes:
> > > 
> > > > The AOL browser is wonky. Everyday I hear it won't do this or 
> > > > that. That could be the issue but I have no idea what would cause 
> > > > it.
> > > > 
> > > > Dan Phillips
> > > > www.CFXHosting.com
> > > > 1-866-239-4678
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 11:47 AM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: Re: Webcasst Feedback
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I sent the link to him in an IM and I am sure he just clicked on 
> > > > it.
> > 
> > > > I
> > > 
> > > > am also sure he uses the AOL browser; he was trying to get me to
> > > > tech
> > > > his browser not to long ago and I was telling him he could connect
> 
> > > > with AOL and use IE and it was just not getting across. Older guy,
> 
> > > > smart but not a computer person. Retired mechanical engineer.
> > > > 
> > > > Dana
> > > > 
> > > > Dan Phillips writes:
> > > > 
> > > > > Are they adding the URL to the AOL browser or just using IE?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Dan Phillips
> > > > > www.CFXHosting.com
> > > > > 1-866-239-4678
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 11:38 AM
> > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > Subject: Re: Webcasst Feedback
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I get it just fine. I asked someone I know who has AOL to check 
> > > > > it and
> > > > 
> > > > > he says the player comes up but nothing loads. He has 512 RAM 
> > > > > and
> > > > > WIndows Me.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Dana
> > > > > 
> > > > > > >>Anybody feel like checking out our webcast and giving me
> > > > > > >feedback?  Go
> > > > > > >>to one of the below links:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>We're broadcasting our National Finals live on the net.  
> > > > > > >>I've
> > > > > > >had a few
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>problems with people who use AOL(not behind a firewall) 
> > > > > > >>saying
> > 
> > > > > > >>they can't get on. Anybody have any ideas maybe why? I 
> > > > > > >>believe
> > 
> > > > > > >>port 1755 should be open to view.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Section C (Groups)
> > > > > >
> > > >>http://pointers.audiovideoweb.com/asxfiles-live/nj45winlive9702.as
> > > > > > >>x
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Section A (Solos)
> > > > > >
> > > >>http://pointers.audiovideoweb.com/asxfiles-live/nj45winlive9703.as
> > > > > > >>x
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Thanks
> > > > > > >>Matt Small
> > > > > > >>IT Director
> > > > > > >>Showstopper American Dance Championships
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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