well, my cell phone is internet capable, so it isn't THAT far off. I am not
really an early adopter. I don't get internet on my cell for the same
reason I dont set my e mail to notify me -- I would find it distracting.
But if your garden variety phone-in-a-box is internet capable then it's
time to give the matter a little thought. 

Dana


Jim Davis writes:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 8:00 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Quick design question
> > 
> > Dana Tierney wrote:
> > >good point; they weren't real prevalent then
> > 
> > They still aren't, and if they are they are rarely hooked up to the
> > internet (except for certain areas like university campuses that have
> > ubiquitous WLAN).
> 
> Jochems's right- they are very rare still.  However they are getting online
> more and more.  Most models of cell phone do the web "out of the box" and
> many of the new handhelds have built in 802.11b.
> 
> (That being said most "web browsing" on handhelds isn't done live in any
> case: it's done with cached pages using out-of-the-box tools like MS Mobile
> Favorites, AvantGo and MobiPocket.)
> 
> 802.11b is taking off here in the states.  It's still small comparatively,
> but most airports, Starbucks and even many McDonald's provide connections.
> The trick is getting people to subscribe for service, but that gets easier
> to more widespread it gets.
> 
> Like I said: another 2-3 years.
> 
> As an aside, putting on my pundit hat: the "Holy Grail" of portables is the
> foldable/rollable screen: right now portables a limited in size to somewhat
> larger than their screen size: you just can't get smaller.
> 
> However a screen which could "roll-up" might allow a handheld the size of
> d-cell flashlight to have a 10" screen.  However this technology will run
> much later than WLAN and super cheap handhelds... perhaps 5-10 years at
> least.
> 
> So for a while, if things keep going like they are, we'll have very cheap,
> very capable devices (lots of memory, fast CPUs, etc) with tiny screens
> coupled with (at least in the urban areas) near universal wireless 'Net
> connectivity (where this is from 802.11x, cell phone networks or something
> else I'm not sure).
>  
> > >Would you be able to allow for this by using
> > >proportional measures such as width=85%?
> > 
> > Yes. And less images, more contrast and no popup's and open in new window
> > links.
> 
> Yes - right now it's quite difficult to create a single layout that works
> for all devices (unless you want to go the truly minimalist route) but by
> leveraging style sheets you can swap out your large, long masthead with a
> tiny, high contrast one, ensure that your text columns are truly liquid and
> so forth.
> 
> Right now most companies providing context are leveraging their existing CMS
> system to provide the same content in small wrappers.  That's a way to go if
> you're targeting these folks, but to much work (I think) if you're just
> trying to be courteous.
> 
> Most sites, with a very small investment in time and work, can use CSS 2.0
> to do this.  If your design was liquid in the first place (as I think they
> should be) then it's really just a matter of determine which elements (most
> graphics) force the display to lengths.
> 
> Jim Davis
> 
> 
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