Not familiar enough with cultural evolution to say. But those who have gone 
through it have spoken about the spiritual enlightenment of the experience.

larry

At 11:43 AM 8/18/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Wow, as a side note, how do people come up with these ideas? I mean who was
>the first guy who went, "boy, I think I could achieve a trance like state if
>I could just be hung by hooks somehow"
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:13 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: Today's Suspension
>
>
>I saw that movie when I was a child - it still gives me chills.  I don't
>know how you do it, Critz.  And if you don't mind, a little extra warning
>next time for the pics.
>
>Thanks,
>Matt Small
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:41 AM
>Subject: RE: Today's Suspension
>
>
> > That reminds me of the Plains Indians sun dance rituals, - black foot and
> > sioux spring to mind. In the ritual a dancer would be suspended by hooks
> > through the pectoral muscles - in front rather than in back. I know one
> > person who did go through the ritual, and reported something similar to
>Critz.
> >
> > Did anyone see the movie "A Man Called Horse" starring Richard Harris? It
> > showed something similar.
> >
> > alrry
> >
> > At 10:02 AM 8/18/2003 -0400, Heald, Tim wrote:
> > >gratz man,
> > >
> > >The pics are great.  Will pass them on to Chrissie, she'll love em.  Good
>to
> > >know it all went well, how are you feeling the day after?
> > >
> > >Timothy Heald
> > >Information Systems Specialist
> > >Overseas Security Advisory Council
> > >U.S. Department of State
> > >571.345.2235
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Critz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 8:01 PM
> > >To: CF-Community
> > >Subject: Today's Suspension
> > >
> > >
> > >oi CF-Community,!!
> > >
> > >   http://www.houseoffusion.com/users/view.cfm?recordid=263
> > >   http://www.houseoffusion.com/users/view.cfm?recordid=264
> > >
> > >   (if they are unappropriate Mike, feel free to remove them) I added
>(nws)
> > >to the second name...)
> > >
> > >   so  anyway, today was....is.... almost impossible to put into words.
>It
> > >was the most intense thing
> > >   I  have  ever done. The piercings themselves weren't too bad, we have
>two
> > >piercers working on each
> > >   person,  so  two  hooks  are  done  at  the  same  time.  There  is  a
> > >small, small rush from the
> > >   needles...nothing unlike any other piercing. Once I was finally
>knotted
> > >into the rig...and started
> > >   to  stretch my way down the ladder....it was like this total haze... I
>had
> > >my eyes closed, I could
> > >   hear  the people around me talking....but they seemed so far away.
>Once I
> > >started walking about on
> > >   my  toes,  I  lost  track of exactly what position I was in.....which
>way
> > >I was facing...etc etc..
> > >   Once  I  was  pretty much stretched, and pulled my feet up off of the
> > >ground, I had one last, very
> > >   very  strong surge of pain by hook #3, then everything became a bit
> > >dreamy..... it was pretty wild
> > >   and definitely the break from reality I needed. I cannot wait till our
> > >next meet :)
> > >
> > >
> > >   Crit
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >
> > >
> > >---
> > >[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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