There's an episode of the X-Files (I was never a big fan, but my ex was. heh) featuring "the human block-head" who delivers the line "if people knew the true price of sprituality there'd be a lot more atheists", or words to that effect, as he's attaching fish-hooks to his chest. Nothing as large as the suspension hooks in those photos.
Though for myself I prefer "sacred spirituality" as described in other, less pointed ways. :P http://www.lovewithoutlimits.com/ Although my sex drive in general has dropped sharply in recent years. Twenty-eight and already entering male menopause. :) Isaac (Who has no intention of poking anyone.) ------ Original Message ------ From: Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Aug 18, 2003 04:23 PM Subject: Re: Today's Suspension >(Obligatory oi!), > >Nothing wrong with doing it for sexual reasons. > >Most people I know that do so find sex to be much more of a spiritual >experience. > >-Kevin > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Pablo Varando" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 4:06 PM >Subject: Re: Today's Suspension > > >> Well, like I said before... if you want to do it, do it.... I just >wouldn't >> do it ;) here... >> >> At least you did it for "spiritual" reasons and NOT sexual reasons (which >is >> usually the reason it's done...) :) >> >> Pablo >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Critz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 3:43 PM >> Subject: Re: Today's Suspension >> >> >> > oi Pablo!! >> > >> > aye, but the holes will heal... perhaps it might slowly damage the >skin >> that is stretched.. dunno, >> > but i think just about anything you do with your body nowadays has >> some type of adverse effect.. >> > maybe small maybe big.. dunno. I do know that if you do not get the air >> out it causes pain until it >> > dissipates... guess that would be a short term thing.... >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > Monday, August 18, 2003, 4:25:17 PM, you wrote: >> > >> > PV> Well, that is your opinion and I respect that... I think because >we're >> > PV> capable doesn't mean it's right. >> > >> > PV> Specialist tell us all the time that we are all capable of murder >(and >> > PV> murderers tell us that its therapeutical).. should we do it? No.. >> > PV> Just because it's possible, it's not necessarily the correct >route... >> I >> > PV> think inserting hooks into your body and hanging yourself is a >little >> > PV> different then hypnotic therapy. But once again, do what you want to >> do... >> > PV> All I am saying is that "I" wouldn't do it.... :) >> > >> > PV> I honestly think (IMHO) that there must be some side-effects to >doing >> > PV> that... whether good or bad... I'm just wondering which out-weights >> the >> > PV> other more... That's why I originally posted.. I wanted to know what >> > PV> happened after.... (in other words now that there are 4 holes in >your >> > PV> body...) >> > >> > >> > PV> Pablo >> > PV> ----- Original Message ----- >> > PV> From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > PV> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > PV> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 3:05 PM >> > PV> Subject: Re: Today's Suspension >> > >> > >> > >> Pablo, >> > >> >> > >> The body was meant to handle such, because it can. There are a number >> of >> > >> different methods of pain control that work and work very effectively >> even >> > >> to the point of experiencing no pain during surgery. Every one knows >of >> > PV> the >> > >> classic acupuncture examples. I know of one case where the person was >> > >> allergic to anesthetic and had to undergo very invasive exploratory >> > >> surgery. Her oncologist suggested that she contact my dissertation >> advisor >> > >> to see if hypnotic pain control would help. After receiving the >> > PV> appropriate >> > >> training and practice, she was able to go through surgery without any >> > >> anesthesia whatsoever. >> > >> >> > >> larry >> > >> >> > >> At 02:54 PM 8/18/2003 -0500, you wrote: >> > >> >Critz, >> > >> > >> > >> >I think in my opinion, "no" the body wasn't meant to take that type >of >> > >> >abuse. Just because the body CAN take it, doesn't mean it SHOULD >take >> > PV> it.. >> > >> > >> > >> >I mean they make automobile engines to go 200 miles and hour, but if >> you >> > PV> hit >> > >> >the max the engine rev chances are it will blow.. Same thing with >the >> > PV> body, >> > >> >just because those endorphines are there, doesn't necessarily mean >> they >> > >> >should be used in this manner... >> > >> > >> > >> >But that's me, I also say if you want to do it and you're ok with >> it... >> > PV> then >> > >> >do what you want.. I am not one to judge you! :) All I'm saying is >> that >> > >> >there is no way in hell I'd do it ;) I saw Hellraiser as a kid... >> People >> > PV> and >> > >> >hooks don't sit well with me :) >> > >> > >> > >> >Pablo >> > >> >----- Original Message ----- >> > >> >From: "Critz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> >Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 2:46 PM >> > >> >Subject: Re: Today's Suspension >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > oi Pablo!! >> > >> > > >> > >> > > I would encourage you to have a read at: >> > >> > > http://www.bmezine.com/ritual/susp-faq.html >> > >> > > >> > >> > > like i said, i did it for personal reasons. I will be >> writing >> > PV> up >> > >> >an article on my experience >> > >> > > starting this evening. I'll be sure to post a copy to the >list.... >> > >> > > >> > >> > > you say the body was not meant to go thru something like >this... >> but >> > >> >wasn't it? isn't that why the >> > >> > > endorphines kick in? so that the body can cope? I think the body >> can >> > PV> take >> > >> >alot more than we realise. >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Crit >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > -- >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > > Monday, August 18, 2003, 3:07:38 PM, you wrote: >> > >> > > >> > >> > > PV> ok, why would you want to do this? :( >> > >> > > >> > >> > > PV> No offense, but there has to be some type of side effect to >all >> > PV> this.. >> > >> >I >> > >> > > PV> mean the body was NOT meant to go through something like this >> (or >> > PV> even >> > >> > > PV> suspension), if it was then we'd have the "hook spots" >already >> in >> > >> >place and >> > >> > > PV> we're all be called Neo or Trinity or Morpheous! ;) >> > >> > > >> > >> > > PV> It's all fine and dandy while you're doing it, but I want to >> know >> > >> >about the >> > >> > > PV> long time effect... are there any? I would think there would >> be... >> > >> > > >> > >> > > PV> Pablo >> > >> > > >> > >> > > PV> ----- Original Message ----- >> > >> > > PV> From: "Deanna Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> > > PV> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> > > PV> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:49 PM >> > >> > > PV> Subject: Re: Today's Suspension >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> I'm trying to remember who it was that was featured in a >Modern >> > >> >Primitives >> > >> > > >> magazine back in the early 90's. He encased his genitals in >> plaster >> > PV> for >> > >> > > >> days. IIRC, the buildup of toxins in the system (from the >> inability >> > PV> to >> > >> > > >> eliminate) also makes you reach an altered state. >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > >> > > >> From: "Sandy Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> > > >> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> > > >> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:58 AM >> > >> > > >> Subject: RE: Today's Suspension >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > A Man called Horse took its suspension from a man in San >> > PV> Francisco >> > >> >who >> > >> > > >> calls >> > >> > > >> > himself Fakir Musafar. I've seen him talk and watched a >video >> of >> > PV> him >> > >> > > >> > leading a ball dance (small needles through the flesh which >> are >> > PV> then >> > >> > > >> > attached to lightweight balls). The dancing with the balls >> > PV> pulling >> > >> >is >> > >> > > >> > supposed to generate the same kind of rush that Critter went >> > PV> through) >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > http://www.bodyplay.com/ >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > >> > > >> > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > > >> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:42 AM >> > >> > > >> > To: CF-Community >> > >> > > >> > Subject: RE: Today's Suspension >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > That reminds me of the Plains Indians sun dance rituals, - >> black >> > PV> foot >> > >> > > PV> and >> > >> > > >> > sioux spring to mind. In the ritual a dancer would be >> suspended >> > PV> by >> > >> >hooks >> > >> > > >> > through the pectoral muscles - in front rather than in back. >I >> > PV> know >> > >> >one >> > >> > > >> > person who did go through the ritual, and reported something >> > PV> similar >> > >> >to >> > >> > > >> > Critz. >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > Did anyone see the movie "A Man Called Horse" starring >Richard >> > >> >Harris? >> > >> > > PV> It >> > >> > > >> > showed something similar. >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > alrry >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > At 10:02 AM 8/18/2003 -0400, Heald, Tim wrote: >> > >> > > >> > >gratz man, >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >The pics are great. Will pass them on to Chrissie, she'll >> love >> > PV> em. >> > >> > > PV> Good >> > >> > > >> > to >> > >> > > >> > >know it all went well, how are you feeling the day after? >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >Timothy Heald >> > >> > > >> > >Information Systems Specialist >> > >> > > >> > >Overseas Security Advisory Council >> > >> > > >> > >U.S. Department of State >> > >> > > >> > >571.345.2235 >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >-----Original Message----- >> > >> > > >> > >From: Critz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > > >> > >Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 8:01 PM >> > >> > > >> > >To: CF-Community >> > >> > > >> > >Subject: Today's Suspension >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >oi CF-Community,!! >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > http://www.houseoffusion.com/users/view.cfm?recordid=263 >> > >> > > >> > > http://www.houseoffusion.com/users/view.cfm?recordid=264 >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > (if they are unappropriate Mike, feel free to remove >them) >> I >> > >> >added >> > >> > > >> (nws) >> > >> > > >> > >to the second name...) >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > so anyway, today was....is.... almost impossible to put >> into >> > >> >words. >> > >> > > >> It >> > >> > > >> > >was the most intense thing >> > >> > > >> > > I have ever done. The piercings themselves weren't too >> bad, >> > PV> we >> > >> > > PV> have >> > >> > > >> > two >> > >> > > >> > >piercers working on each >> > >> > > >> > > person, so two hooks are done at the same time. >> > PV> There >> > >> >is >> > >> > > PV> a >> > >> > > >> > >small, small rush from the >> > >> > > >> > > needles...nothing unlike any other piercing. Once I was >> > PV> finally >> > >> > > >> knotted >> > >> > > >> > >into the rig...and started >> > >> > > >> > > to stretch my way down the ladder....it was like this >> total >> > >> >haze... >> > >> > > PV> I >> > >> > > >> > had >> > >> > > >> > >my eyes closed, I could >> > >> > > >> > > hear the people around me talking....but they seemed so >> far >> > >> >away. >> > >> > > >> Once >> > >> > > >> > I >> > >> > > >> > >started walking about on >> > >> > > >> > > my toes, I lost track of exactly what position I was >> > >> > > PV> in.....which >> > >> > > >> > way >> > >> > > >> > >I was facing...etc etc.. >> > >> > > >> > > Once I was pretty much stretched, and pulled my feet >up >> > PV> off of >> > >> > > PV> the >> > >> > > >> > >ground, I had one last, very >> > >> > > >> > > very strong surge of pain by hook #3, then everything >> became >> > PV> a >> > >> >bit >> > >> > > >> > >dreamy..... it was pretty wild >> > >> > > >> > > and definitely the break from reality I needed. I cannot >> wait >> > >> >till >> > >> > > PV> our >> > >> > > >> > >next meet :) >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > Crit >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >-- >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >--- >> > >> > > >> > >[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > PV> >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > PV> >> > >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
