Hm...but that's a man. And, I wouldn't call giving birth a "high-trauma event." A car-crash I'd call a high-trauma event, but not birth. Let's compare birth and fleshhooks: Both are done willingly Both are painful Both cause transcendant states of being Both have a gradual buildup of pressure to a localized area of the body
Now, granted, fleshhooks are timed by the participant, while birth is timed by the baby. And, birth involves more physical exertion at the end, while suspension would ideally have very little physical exertion at the end (assuming you're going for a calm/still suspension, anyway). I'm also coming at this from a somewhat non-traditional viewpoint of labor/birth - one in which experiencing the pain is an integral part of the whole experience (which isn't your typical Western view of birth anymore). So, point being, I'd still like to hear from a woman who's done both. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Critz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:00 PM Subject: Re: Today's Suspension > oi Deanna!! > > I posted that question to Shannon Larratt (editor of BMEZine.com) this was his response: > > ----------------- > Well, PERSONALLY I'd say they're not at all the same... > It's a very different sort of pain, and it's applied very differently. > Of course, I've never given unmedicated birth so I could be wrong, > but I don't think you could draw comparisons between them any more > than other high-trauma events. > ----------------- > > > -- > Currently Playing: Bill Hicks - The War > > ------------------------------------ > Monday, August 18, 2003, 12:06:05 PM, you wrote: > > DS> Hm...they way the describe it is much the same as the way non-medicated > DS> birth is described. I'd be interested to hear how a woman that has suspended > DS> and given birth would compare the two.... > > DS> -Deanna > > DS> ----- Original Message ----- > DS> From: "Critz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > DS> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > DS> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:22 AM > DS> Subject: Re: Today's Suspension > > > >> oi Andre!! > >> > >> here is a FAQ, with quite a bit of info on suspensions: > >> http://www.bmezine.com/ritual/susp-faq.html > >> > >> > >> crit > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Currently Playing: Let The Party Begin - Shaved - My Mouse > >> > >> ------------------------------------ > >> Monday, August 18, 2003, 10:57:11 AM, you wrote: > >> > >> AT> Thats Nuts Critz. Let me buy you a beer if we ever meet. Can you > DS> describe > >> AT> for me a bit what the philosophy behind that movement is? > >> > >> AT> DRE > >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> From: Critz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:27 AM > >> >> To: CF-Community > >> >> Subject: Re: Today's Suspension > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> oi Kevin!! > >> >> > >> >> from where the hooks were in my back...it felt like my head > >> >> was being pushed down a bit, and having my arms just > >> >> dangle was about the most comfortable way i could get. > >> >> Being that it was my first > >> >> suspension, i didn't really know what to expect, so i > >> >> stayed close to the ground. I think my next > >> >> one will be even better.. knowing a bit more what my > >> >> body can take....etc. It is a very weird feeling to lift > >> >> your feet off the ground like that and not have your hands > >> >> touching anything..and knowing you are only held up by your skin..... > >> >> > >> >> and you are right on the haze. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Crit > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Currently Playing: Let The Party Begin - Dj Jurgen - One Step Away > >> >> > >> >> ------------------------------------ > >> >> Monday, August 18, 2003, 9:50:58 AM, you wrote: > >> >> > >> >> KG> Nice! > >> >> > >> >> KG> I'm surprised though that you aren't lifted higher so > >> >> that you can > >> >> KG> go completely prone without having to lift your legs and > >> >> arms like > >> >> KG> in the second photo. Although, I'm sure from your > >> >> perspective, you > >> >> KG> were completely relaxed and details like that were completely > >> >> KG> ignored. It looks a bit like you're trying to go into > >> >> fetal position > >> >> KG> but gravity is fighting. > >> >> > >> >> KG> Haven't done fleshhooks, but I think I know the haze you > >> >> were in. I > >> >> KG> went on a sort of retreat years ago that involved fasting, > >> >> KG> meditation, and intense martial conditioning. When you > >> >> start to view > >> >> KG> the world in a third person view, you know something's up. > >> >> > >> >> KG> -Kevin > >> >> > >> >> KG> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> KG> From: "Critz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> KG> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> KG> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 6:55 PM > >> >> KG> Subject: Today's Suspension > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> oi CF-Community,!! > >> >> >> > >> >> >> http://www.houseoffusion.com/users/view.cfm?recordid=263 > >> >> >> http://www.houseoffusion.com/users/view.cfm?recordid=264 > >> >> >> > >> >> >> (if they are unappropriate Mike, feel free to remove > >> >> them) I added (nws) > >> >> KG> to the second name...) > >> >> >> > >> >> >> so anyway, today was....is.... almost impossible to put > >> >> into words. It > >> >> KG> was the most intense thing > >> >> >> I have ever done. The piercings themselves weren't too > >> >> bad, we have > >> >> KG> two piercers working on each > >> >> >> person, so two hooks are done at the same time. > >> >> There is a > >> >> KG> small, small rush from the > >> >> >> needles...nothing unlike any other piercing. Once I was > >> >> finally knotted > >> >> KG> into the rig...and started > >> >> >> to stretch my way down the ladder....it was like this > >> >> total haze... I > >> >> KG> had my eyes closed, I could > >> >> >> hear the people around me talking....but they seemed so > >> >> far away. Once > >> >> KG> I started walking about on > >> >> >> my toes, I lost track of exactly what position I was > >> >> in.....which > >> >> KG> way I was facing...etc etc.. > >> >> >> Once I was pretty much stretched, and pulled my feet > >> >> up off of the > >> >> KG> ground, I had one last, very > >> >> >> very strong surge of pain by hook #3, then everything > >> >> became a bit > >> >> KG> dreamy..... it was pretty wild > >> >> >> and definitely the break from reality I needed. I cannot > >> >> wait till our > >> >> KG> next meet :) > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Crit > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> --- > >> >> >> [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> KG> > >> >> > >> AT> > >> > DS> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
