oi Deanna!! I'm sure I can find a few, i'll ask around.
Crit -- ------------------------------------ Monday, August 18, 2003, 3:00:46 PM, you wrote: DS> Hm...but that's a man. And, I wouldn't call giving birth a "high-trauma DS> event." A car-crash I'd call a high-trauma event, but not birth. DS> Let's compare birth and fleshhooks: DS> Both are done willingly DS> Both are painful DS> Both cause transcendant states of being DS> Both have a gradual buildup of pressure to a localized area of the body DS> Now, granted, fleshhooks are timed by the participant, while birth is timed DS> by the baby. And, birth involves more physical exertion at the end, while DS> suspension would ideally have very little physical exertion at the end DS> (assuming you're going for a calm/still suspension, anyway). DS> I'm also coming at this from a somewhat non-traditional viewpoint of DS> labor/birth - one in which experiencing the pain is an integral part of the DS> whole experience (which isn't your typical Western view of birth anymore). DS> So, point being, I'd still like to hear from a woman who's done both. DS> ----- Original Message ----- DS> From: "Critz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DS> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DS> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:00 PM DS> Subject: Re: Today's Suspension >> oi Deanna!! >> >> I posted that question to Shannon Larratt (editor of BMEZine.com) this was DS> his response: >> >> ----------------- >> Well, PERSONALLY I'd say they're not at all the same... >> It's a very different sort of pain, and it's applied very differently. >> Of course, I've never given unmedicated birth so I could be wrong, >> but I don't think you could draw comparisons between them any more >> than other high-trauma events. >> ----------------- >> >> >> -- >> Currently Playing: Bill Hicks - The War >> >> ------------------------------------ >> Monday, August 18, 2003, 12:06:05 PM, you wrote: >> >> DS> Hm...they way the describe it is much the same as the way DS> non-medicated >> DS> birth is described. I'd be interested to hear how a woman that has DS> suspended >> DS> and given birth would compare the two.... >> >> DS> -Deanna >> >> DS> ----- Original Message ----- >> DS> From: "Critz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> DS> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> DS> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:22 AM >> DS> Subject: Re: Today's Suspension >> >> >> >> oi Andre!! >> >> >> >> here is a FAQ, with quite a bit of info on suspensions: >> >> http://www.bmezine.com/ritual/susp-faq.html >> >> >> >> >> >> crit >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Currently Playing: Let The Party Begin - Shaved - My Mouse >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Monday, August 18, 2003, 10:57:11 AM, you wrote: >> >> >> >> AT> Thats Nuts Critz. Let me buy you a beer if we ever meet. Can you >> DS> describe >> >> AT> for me a bit what the philosophy behind that movement is? >> >> >> >> AT> DRE >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> >> From: Critz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:27 AM >> >> >> To: CF-Community >> >> >> Subject: Re: Today's Suspension >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> oi Kevin!! >> >> >> >> >> >> from where the hooks were in my back...it felt like my head >> >> >> was being pushed down a bit, and having my arms just >> >> >> dangle was about the most comfortable way i could get. >> >> >> Being that it was my first >> >> >> suspension, i didn't really know what to expect, so i >> >> >> stayed close to the ground. I think my next >> >> >> one will be even better.. knowing a bit more what my >> >> >> body can take....etc. It is a very weird feeling to lift >> >> >> your feet off the ground like that and not have your hands >> >> >> touching anything..and knowing you are only held up by your DS> skin..... >> >> >> >> >> >> and you are right on the haze. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Crit >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Currently Playing: Let The Party Begin - Dj Jurgen - One Step Away >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> >> Monday, August 18, 2003, 9:50:58 AM, you wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> KG> Nice! >> >> >> >> >> >> KG> I'm surprised though that you aren't lifted higher so >> >> >> that you can >> >> >> KG> go completely prone without having to lift your legs and >> >> >> arms like >> >> >> KG> in the second photo. Although, I'm sure from your >> >> >> perspective, you >> >> >> KG> were completely relaxed and details like that were completely >> >> >> KG> ignored. It looks a bit like you're trying to go into >> >> >> fetal position >> >> >> KG> but gravity is fighting. >> >> >> >> >> >> KG> Haven't done fleshhooks, but I think I know the haze you >> >> >> were in. I >> >> >> KG> went on a sort of retreat years ago that involved fasting, >> >> >> KG> meditation, and intense martial conditioning. When you >> >> >> start to view >> >> >> KG> the world in a third person view, you know something's up. >> >> >> >> >> >> KG> -Kevin >> >> >> >> >> >> KG> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> KG> From: "Critz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> KG> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> KG> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 6:55 PM >> >> >> KG> Subject: Today's Suspension >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> oi CF-Community,!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.houseoffusion.com/users/view.cfm?recordid=263 >> >> >> >> http://www.houseoffusion.com/users/view.cfm?recordid=264 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> (if they are unappropriate Mike, feel free to remove >> >> >> them) I added (nws) >> >> >> KG> to the second name...) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> so anyway, today was....is.... almost impossible to put >> >> >> into words. It >> >> >> KG> was the most intense thing >> >> >> >> I have ever done. The piercings themselves weren't too >> >> >> bad, we have >> >> >> KG> two piercers working on each >> >> >> >> person, so two hooks are done at the same time. >> >> >> There is a >> >> >> KG> small, small rush from the >> >> >> >> needles...nothing unlike any other piercing. Once I was >> >> >> finally knotted >> >> >> KG> into the rig...and started >> >> >> >> to stretch my way down the ladder....it was like this >> >> >> total haze... I >> >> >> KG> had my eyes closed, I could >> >> >> >> hear the people around me talking....but they seemed so >> >> >> far away. Once >> >> >> KG> I started walking about on >> >> >> >> my toes, I lost track of exactly what position I was >> >> >> in.....which >> >> >> KG> way I was facing...etc etc.. >> >> >> >> Once I was pretty much stretched, and pulled my feet >> >> >> up off of the >> >> >> KG> ground, I had one last, very >> >> >> >> very strong surge of pain by hook #3, then everything >> >> >> became a bit >> >> >> KG> dreamy..... it was pretty wild >> >> >> >> and definitely the break from reality I needed. I cannot >> >> >> wait till our >> >> >> KG> next meet :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Crit >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> >> >> >> [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> KG> >> >> >> >> >> AT> >> >> >> DS> >> DS> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
