Well, like I said before... if you want to do it, do it.... I just wouldn't do it ;) here...
At least you did it for "spiritual" reasons and NOT sexual reasons (which is usually the reason it's done...) :) Pablo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Critz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 3:43 PM Subject: Re: Today's Suspension > oi Pablo!! > > aye, but the holes will heal... perhaps it might slowly damage the skin that is stretched.. dunno, > but i think just about anything you do with your body nowadays has some type of adverse effect.. > maybe small maybe big.. dunno. I do know that if you do not get the air out it causes pain until it > dissipates... guess that would be a short term thing.... > > > -- > > > ------------------------------------ > Monday, August 18, 2003, 4:25:17 PM, you wrote: > > PV> Well, that is your opinion and I respect that... I think because we're > PV> capable doesn't mean it's right. > > PV> Specialist tell us all the time that we are all capable of murder (and > PV> murderers tell us that its therapeutical).. should we do it? No.. > PV> Just because it's possible, it's not necessarily the correct route... I > PV> think inserting hooks into your body and hanging yourself is a little > PV> different then hypnotic therapy. But once again, do what you want to do... > PV> All I am saying is that "I" wouldn't do it.... :) > > PV> I honestly think (IMHO) that there must be some side-effects to doing > PV> that... whether good or bad... I'm just wondering which out-weights the > PV> other more... That's why I originally posted.. I wanted to know what > PV> happened after.... (in other words now that there are 4 holes in your > PV> body...) > > > PV> Pablo > PV> ----- Original Message ----- > PV> From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > PV> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > PV> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 3:05 PM > PV> Subject: Re: Today's Suspension > > > >> Pablo, > >> > >> The body was meant to handle such, because it can. There are a number of > >> different methods of pain control that work and work very effectively even > >> to the point of experiencing no pain during surgery. Every one knows of > PV> the > >> classic acupuncture examples. I know of one case where the person was > >> allergic to anesthetic and had to undergo very invasive exploratory > >> surgery. Her oncologist suggested that she contact my dissertation advisor > >> to see if hypnotic pain control would help. After receiving the > PV> appropriate > >> training and practice, she was able to go through surgery without any > >> anesthesia whatsoever. > >> > >> larry > >> > >> At 02:54 PM 8/18/2003 -0500, you wrote: > >> >Critz, > >> > > >> >I think in my opinion, "no" the body wasn't meant to take that type of > >> >abuse. Just because the body CAN take it, doesn't mean it SHOULD take > PV> it.. > >> > > >> >I mean they make automobile engines to go 200 miles and hour, but if you > PV> hit > >> >the max the engine rev chances are it will blow.. Same thing with the > PV> body, > >> >just because those endorphines are there, doesn't necessarily mean they > >> >should be used in this manner... > >> > > >> >But that's me, I also say if you want to do it and you're ok with it... > PV> then > >> >do what you want.. I am not one to judge you! :) All I'm saying is that > >> >there is no way in hell I'd do it ;) I saw Hellraiser as a kid... People > PV> and > >> >hooks don't sit well with me :) > >> > > >> >Pablo > >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >From: "Critz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 2:46 PM > >> >Subject: Re: Today's Suspension > >> > > >> > > >> > > oi Pablo!! > >> > > > >> > > I would encourage you to have a read at: > >> > > http://www.bmezine.com/ritual/susp-faq.html > >> > > > >> > > like i said, i did it for personal reasons. I will be writing > PV> up > >> >an article on my experience > >> > > starting this evening. I'll be sure to post a copy to the list.... > >> > > > >> > > you say the body was not meant to go thru something like this... but > >> >wasn't it? isn't that why the > >> > > endorphines kick in? so that the body can cope? I think the body can > PV> take > >> >alot more than we realise. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Crit > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > ------------------------------------ > >> > > Monday, August 18, 2003, 3:07:38 PM, you wrote: > >> > > > >> > > PV> ok, why would you want to do this? :( > >> > > > >> > > PV> No offense, but there has to be some type of side effect to all > PV> this.. > >> >I > >> > > PV> mean the body was NOT meant to go through something like this (or > PV> even > >> > > PV> suspension), if it was then we'd have the "hook spots" already in > >> >place and > >> > > PV> we're all be called Neo or Trinity or Morpheous! ;) > >> > > > >> > > PV> It's all fine and dandy while you're doing it, but I want to know > >> >about the > >> > > PV> long time effect... are there any? I would think there would be... > >> > > > >> > > PV> Pablo > >> > > > >> > > PV> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > PV> From: "Deanna Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > PV> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > PV> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:49 PM > >> > > PV> Subject: Re: Today's Suspension > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> I'm trying to remember who it was that was featured in a Modern > >> >Primitives > >> > > >> magazine back in the early 90's. He encased his genitals in plaster > PV> for > >> > > >> days. IIRC, the buildup of toxins in the system (from the inability > PV> to > >> > > >> eliminate) also makes you reach an altered state. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > >> From: "Sandy Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > >> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > >> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:58 AM > >> > > >> Subject: RE: Today's Suspension > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > A Man called Horse took its suspension from a man in San > PV> Francisco > >> >who > >> > > >> calls > >> > > >> > himself Fakir Musafar. I've seen him talk and watched a video of > PV> him > >> > > >> > leading a ball dance (small needles through the flesh which are > PV> then > >> > > >> > attached to lightweight balls). The dancing with the balls > PV> pulling > >> >is > >> > > >> > supposed to generate the same kind of rush that Critter went > PV> through) > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > http://www.bodyplay.com/ > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > > >> > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > >> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:42 AM > >> > > >> > To: CF-Community > >> > > >> > Subject: RE: Today's Suspension > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > That reminds me of the Plains Indians sun dance rituals, - black > PV> foot > >> > > PV> and > >> > > >> > sioux spring to mind. In the ritual a dancer would be suspended > PV> by > >> >hooks > >> > > >> > through the pectoral muscles - in front rather than in back. I > PV> know > >> >one > >> > > >> > person who did go through the ritual, and reported something > PV> similar > >> >to > >> > > >> > Critz. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Did anyone see the movie "A Man Called Horse" starring Richard > >> >Harris? > >> > > PV> It > >> > > >> > showed something similar. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > alrry > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > At 10:02 AM 8/18/2003 -0400, Heald, Tim wrote: > >> > > >> > >gratz man, > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >The pics are great. Will pass them on to Chrissie, she'll love > PV> em. > >> > > PV> Good > >> > > >> > to > >> > > >> > >know it all went well, how are you feeling the day after? > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >Timothy Heald > >> > > >> > >Information Systems Specialist > >> > > >> > >Overseas Security Advisory Council > >> > > >> > >U.S. Department of State > >> > > >> > >571.345.2235 > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >-----Original Message----- > >> > > >> > >From: Critz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > >> > >Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 8:01 PM > >> > > >> > >To: CF-Community > >> > > >> > >Subject: Today's Suspension > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >oi CF-Community,!! > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > http://www.houseoffusion.com/users/view.cfm?recordid=263 > >> > > >> > > http://www.houseoffusion.com/users/view.cfm?recordid=264 > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > (if they are unappropriate Mike, feel free to remove them) I > >> >added > >> > > >> (nws) > >> > > >> > >to the second name...) > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > so anyway, today was....is.... almost impossible to put into > >> >words. > >> > > >> It > >> > > >> > >was the most intense thing > >> > > >> > > I have ever done. The piercings themselves weren't too bad, > PV> we > >> > > PV> have > >> > > >> > two > >> > > >> > >piercers working on each > >> > > >> > > person, so two hooks are done at the same time. > PV> There > >> >is > >> > > PV> a > >> > > >> > >small, small rush from the > >> > > >> > > needles...nothing unlike any other piercing. Once I was > PV> finally > >> > > >> knotted > >> > > >> > >into the rig...and started > >> > > >> > > to stretch my way down the ladder....it was like this total > >> >haze... > >> > > PV> I > >> > > >> > had > >> > > >> > >my eyes closed, I could > >> > > >> > > hear the people around me talking....but they seemed so far > >> >away. > >> > > >> Once > >> > > >> > I > >> > > >> > >started walking about on > >> > > >> > > my toes, I lost track of exactly what position I was > >> > > PV> in.....which > >> > > >> > way > >> > > >> > >I was facing...etc etc.. > >> > > >> > > Once I was pretty much stretched, and pulled my feet up > PV> off of > >> > > PV> the > >> > > >> > >ground, I had one last, very > >> > > >> > > very strong surge of pain by hook #3, then everything became > PV> a > >> >bit > >> > > >> > >dreamy..... it was pretty wild > >> > > >> > > and definitely the break from reality I needed. I cannot wait > >> >till > >> > > PV> our > >> > > >> > >next meet :) > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > Crit > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >-- > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >--- > >> > > >> > >[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > PV> > >> > > > >> > > >> > PV> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
