"alive" so that the organs can be harvested. Say you arrive in the ER
because of head trauma from an auto accident. If you have obvious brain
damage (grey matter visable, no EEG activity, etc) then they will keep
your body breathing using a machine until family is contacted and
consent given.
Medically, a Dr. must do everything possible to help you recover. If
they just shrug their shoulders and say "oh well", they are setting
themselves up for a HUGE lawsuit and removal of their lisence.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 2:34 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re:This is .....
I heard somewhere that if you have the "organ donor" sticker on your
driver's license, they might not work to save you even if they could -
WTF, let's harvest the dude...
Wonder if that's true.
Of course, this is different from a DNR in a veggie case, but still
scary.
-Ben
>Yea i filed a DNR years ago if i have little hope a recovery. And god
>forbid anything happens i know its gonna be hard for the doctors to say
>don't save this guy because they want to its their job. But if i have
to
>live locked as a prisoner in my body as a veggie i would rather die and
>find out what happens after you die. I always wonder does everything
>just fade to black. Its just a weird though that in an instant your
>essence can be gone just fading to black for eternity?
>
>
>
>--
>Bill Wheatley
>Senior Database Developer
>eDiets.com, Inc.
>(OTCBB: EDET)
>3801 W. Hillsboro Blvd.
>Deerfield Beach, FL 33442
>V: (954) 360-9022 ext. 159
>F: (954) 360-9095
>E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>W: <http://www.ediets.com/> www.ediets.com
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 9:47 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: This is .....
>
>
>I suppose there will always be people who have never experienced having
>a family
>member in a "persistent vegetative state" who will keep on trying to
>deny a
>person's right to die a dignified death. Due to some warped faith or
>belief
>they persist in imposing the most horrific pain and agony on the
>helpless.
>
>Their only argument is the extremely rare cases where a comatose person
>has
>regained consciousness, even though they are not the same person once
>this
>happens.
>
>I would strongly support laws that would enforce the right to die in as
>dignified a manner as possible under the circumstances, and this would
>include
>assisted suicide by the terminally ill. I just could not be monster
>enough to
>want to ever impose the pain and suffering on anyone.
>
>Extending the argument, is the controversy over the timely
>administration of
>sufficient pain killers for the agonizing cancer sufferers who are in
>the end
>stage of the disease and death is inevitable. Some Doctors will do
>this, but
>there still exists a large number who won't, and will allow the person
>so
>tortured continue in agony.
>
>Life and death decisions are made daily by medical personnel, that is,
>making
>the decision to discontinue resuscitation of a traumatized person.
>
>!
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 8:10 AM
>Subject: RE: This is .....
>
>| She is dependent on a machine to live. You as a person have the right
>in
>| the united states to say i do not want to survive via artificial
>means.
>| Which means when you unplug the machine and/or tubes nature takes its
>| course. So lets take a step back and realize its only nature and get
>| over it.
>|
>| If i was the guy though i would move my ass out of florida then.
>FLorida
>| is so messed up i hate this state sometimes, i hate the people
>| sometimes, i defiantly hate the fans of their so called baseball team
>| too grrr long story about last nights game.
>|
>| But people who think they are going to starve her to death. YES that
>is
>| what is going to happen its nature get over it. She did not want to
>live
>| as a vegtable but her parents say ohhhh she makes progress with us
and
>| such. Its not the governments place to say what has to happen it was
>| told to each other verbally and that IS enough. A court saw it as
>enough
>| and now i'm waiting for a court to rule the insane overstepping over
>the
>| boundries of power by the Florida Legislature was improper.
>| I looked at those movies btw thats just more reason to let her go
like
>| she wanted. OH well poor women its just another step down the road.
>|
>| Eventually even written living wills will be disregarded by a family
>| member. Its the husbands choice or the wifes choice thats just the
way
>| it is deal with it.
>|
>| Its sad that those parents can't get past that or only want money or
>| whatever.
>|
>|
>| --
>| Bill Wheatley
>| Senior Database Developer
>| eDiets.com, Inc.
>| (OTCBB: EDET)
>| 3801 W. Hillsboro Blvd.
>| Deerfield Beach, FL 33442
>| V: (954) 360-9022 ext. 159
>| F: (954) 360-9095
>| E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>| W: <http://www.ediets.com/> www.ediets.com
>|
>|
>|
>| -----Original Message-----
>| From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>| Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 11:13 AM
>| To: CF-Community
>| Subject: RE: This is .....
>|
>|
>| btw...here's the other side of the tale.
>|
>|
>| Take a good look.
>|
>|
>| "
>| <http://www.friendsofterri.org/how's%20that%20cold.rm>
>| http://www.friendsofterri.org/how's%20that%20cold.rm
>|
>| <http://www.friendsofterri.org/Terri%20Big%20Eyes.rm>
>| http://www.friendsofterri.org/Terri%20Big%20Eyes.rm
>|
>| They removed her feeding tube, planning on starving her to death.
>|
>| She was denied therapy to make the minimal steps required for her to
>eat
>| normally.
>|
>| "
>|
>| -Gel
>|
>| -----Original Message-----
>| From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>| Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 11:02 AM
>| To: CF-Community
>| Subject: This is .....
>|
>| ....the most assinine thing ever. Why the f$%^ is the state
>legislature
>| getting involved? The woman told her husband she didnt want to live
>like
>| this. Man this pisses me off. It's nice to know that if my wife and I
>| discuss how we do or do not want to live when comatic or a vegetable,
>| that
>| our wishes mean nothing. God damn why cant people just let those who
>are
>| deciding about their OWN lives decide? I
>|
>| http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/10/21/coma.woman/index.html
>| <http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/10/21/coma.woman/index.html>
>|
>|
>| _____
>|
>|
>| _____
>|
>|
>|
> _____
>
>
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