Dang it, stop being so sensible!  How are we supposed to argue over this?

I'm glad you've apparently resolved it, though.

--benD

Matthew Small wrote:
> OK...
>
> We're talking about one issue here- she got upset when I didn't let her
> in on the decision making time here.
> Yes, you're right, it is a control issue.  She's likes to be in
> control, but she's not a control freak.
>
> What the entire situation boiled down to was:
> I'm in a relationship that is in transition from a unmarried couple to
> a committed marriage.  I was thinking in the unmarried couple phase,
> she in the committed marriage phase.  Neither is completely wrong nor
> right.
>
> I'm smart enough to know that I really should have been more thoughtful
> when choosing a new major vehicle for us.  In November, we will be
> combining our finances so we can maximize our spending and saving
> abilities, and this affects that part of our relationship.
>
> However, on the flip side, she should have been more willing to see the
> vehicle before she completely disregarded it as a viable alternative to
> the large 4x4 pickup that I have been driving for the past year.  The
> truck was great, utility-wise, but it was a gas hog and was becoming
> increasingly uncomfortable to drive on the long drive to work every
> day.  Plus, it had 173000 miles on it when I traded it in - it was time
> to get rid of it before the problems started 'nickle and diming' me to
> death.
>
> So I had justification for getting a new vehicle and I actually chose a
> very nice vehicle, so I am right in this regard.  I should have talked
> about this situation with her before I made the purchase so I could get
> her input, like any good partnership would do, love or business. She is
> right in this regard.
>
> There are always some control issues in any marriage - both parties
> want to be heard and should be heard, but everybody needs some measure
> of independence at some point.
>
> This was a learning lesson for both of us - I could have avoided the
> whole situation had I handled it better, and she could have talked to
> me before she became angry.
>
> I'm still getting married to the wonderful girl, and we're both anxious
> to put this behind us.
>
> In other news, I'm interviewing with Microsoft as well as a company in
> Baltimore - I might be seeing some of you sometime in the DC area!
> Maybe Tim and I can race!
>
> - Matt Small
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 30, 2003, at 06:19 PM, dana tierney wrote:
>
>  > I sense major control issues, personally. But maybe he likes it that
>  > way...
>  > :::shrug:: there are some things some people are not ready to hear,
>  > and I have said my bit.
>  >
>  > Matt, I hope it all works out for you.
>  >
>  > Dana
>  >
>  > >Hey Tim,
>  > >
>  > >"so screwed" can be a very good thing! ;-)
>  > >
>  > >but I presume you mean it the *other* way -
>  > >just curious why if ya don't mind me asking?
>  > >
>  > >-Ben
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >>Wow you're so screwed if you marry this chick.
>  > >>
>  > >>And it's really not way faster, I would be glad to prove it when
>  > ever you
>  > >>feel like coming up to dc.
>  > >>  -----Original Message-----
>  > >>  From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > >>  Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 3:45 PM
>  > >>  To: CF-Community
>  > >>  Subject: Re: I think I'm in trouble
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >>  OK everyone, I have a lot of answers straight from the source...
>  > >>
>  > >>  1)  She's upset because I made a major purchase without consulting
>  > her.
>  > >>    To my credit, I have been telling her that I wanted something
>  > new, but
>  > >>  I didn't find anything until I saw this Mustang.
>  > >>
>  > >>  2) She would not have been mad if I had bought something sensible,
>  > just
>  > >>  a bit annoyed that I had not included her.  This is not because she
>  > >>  wants to dicate things to me, it's because if I had been thinking
>  > about
>  > >>  what is good for us rather than me.
>  > >>
>  > >>  3) I was wrong, I will admit it.
>  > >>
>  > >>  4) She told me that if I wanted the car, I could keep it if it was
>  > what
>  > >>  I wanted, and she meant it.
>  > >>
>  > >>  5) We tried to return the vehicle.  There is no 72 hours right of
>  > >>  rescission on automobiles.
>  > >>
>  > >>  5) We were going to trade it for something else (the dealer gave us
>  > >>  this choice) but there was nothing else in my price range that I
>  > liked.
>  > >>
>  > >>  6) We've decided to keep it and sell it outright.  I feel that I
>  > can
>  > >>  get at least what I put into the vehicle since it's below blue
>  > book.
>  > >>
>  > >>  7) I'm taking her out tonight to Carraba's for some delicious
>  > mussels.
>  > >>
>  > >>  8) She's a wonderful, understanding person.  She was just extremely
>  > >>  upset that I did this without her input.
>  > >>
>  > >>  9) I actually think she likes the car, now that she's seen it, and
>  > she
>  > >>  will like it more after I take her out in it tonight.
>  > >>
>  > >>  10)  Thank for your input.
>  > >>
>  > >>  11)  This car is WAY faster than Tim's.
>  > >>
>  > >>  - Matt Small
>  > >>
>  > >>  On Monday, December 29, 2003, at 11:20 AM, Andre Turrettini wrote:
>  > >>
>  > >>  > This is true.  Matt, Can you give us more insight into her stong
>  > >>  > response?
>  > >>  > DRE
>  > >>  >
>  > >>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > >>  > From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > >>  > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 8:18 AM
>  > >>  > To: CF-Community
>  > >>  > Subject: Re:I think I'm in trouble
>  > >>  >
>  > >>  > He's right tho, if my SO tried to dictate the car I could buy I
>  > would
>  > >>  > run
>  > >>  > like hell in the other direction. Unless he was buying it for
>  > me; at
>  > >>  > that
>  > >>  > point he deserves some say. Sorry Matt but imho this is a major
>  > red
>  > >>  > flag
>  > >>  > which you ignore at your peril.
>  > >>  >
>  > >>  > Dana
>  > >>  >
>  > >>  > >Mike,
>  > >>  > >  You're either single or have the most tolerant wife on the
>  > planet!
>  > >>  > >"perhaps the marriage is just not meant to be"... you're
>  > killing me,
>  > >>  > Man.
>  > >>  > >
>  > >>  > >~Simon
>  > >>  > >
>  > >>  > >Simon Horwith
>  > >>  > >CTO, Etrilogy Ltd.
>  > >>  > >Member of Team Macromedia
>  > >>  > >Macromedia Certified Instructor
>  > >>  > >Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
>  > >>  > >Certified Flash MX Developer
>  > >>  > >CFDJList - List Administrator
>  > >>  > >http://www.how2cf.com/
>  > >>  > >
>  > >>  > >  -----Original Message-----
>  > >>  > >  From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > >>  > >  Sent: 29 December 2003 15:23
>  > >>  > >  To: CF-Community
>  > >>  > >  Subject: RE: I think I'm in trouble
>  > >>  > >
>  > >>  > >
>  > >>  > >  Keep the car, give it a name, add nitrous, flourescent
>  > lights, a
>  > >>  > tricked
>  > >>  > >  out odometer and racing seats. Put a big sticker on the back
>  > >>  > windshield
>  > >>  > >  indicating you are part of a street racing team.
>  > >>  > >
>  > >>  > >  What was the name of the car Will Farrell's character drove
>  > in Old
>  > >>  > >  School? If your wife can't deal with you having a cool ride,
>  > which
>  > >>  > is a
>  > >>  > >  part of your identify, perhaps the marriage is just not meant
>  > to be.
>  > >>  > >  Imagine what life will be like in 20 years when she becomes
>  > >>  > hysterical
>  > >>  > >  over a bunch of doylies over or something - you do not want
>  > that.
>  > >>  > It's
>  > >>  > >  going to be lemonade and cucumber sandwiches instead of beer
>  > and
>  > >>  > chicken
>  > >>  > >  wings, and that ain't right. Put your foot down and keep your
>  > >>  > dignity.
>  > >>  > >
>  > >>  > >  M
>  > >>  > >
>  > >>  > >  -----Original Message-----
>  > >>  > >  From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > >>  > >  Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 11:43 PM
>  > >>  > >  To: CF-Community
>  > >>  > >  Subject: I think I'm in trouble
>  > >>  > >
>  > >>  > >  I pulled a boner today.
>  > >>  > >
>  > >>  > >  I'm in the market for a new vehicle, since the truck that I'm
>  > >>  > driving,
>  > >>  > >  while good looking and well running, has 173,000 miles on
>  > it.  It's
>  > >>  > a
>  > >>  > >  1995 Chevy Silverado, 4x4. My fiancee loves the thing, thinks
>  > it's
>  > >>  > the
>  > >>  > >  manliest truck on this earth. For the record, she's 23, I'm
>  > 31, we
>  > >>  > >  don't live together, and she's never had a FT job before
>  > since she
>  > >>  > just
>  > >>  > >  graduated Grad School with an MBA. She's a lovely girl, just a
>  > >>  > little
>  > >>  > >  idealistic sometimes due to youth.
>  > >>  > >
>  > >>  > >  So I go out today, just browsing and this car catches my eye
>  > - it'
>  > >>  > s a
>  > >>  > >  2001 Mustang GT.  Worse yet, it's a Mustang GT Bullitt - a
>  > Steve
>  > >>  > >  McQueen style race car. So I test drive it, am unnaturally
>  > scared to
>  > >>  > >  death of it, and then buy it.  I figure since it's only got
>  > 38,000
>  > >>  > on
>  > >>  > >  the odometer, that it will get getter mileage than the giant
>  > truck,
>  > >>  > and
>  > >>  > >  that she also has a Mustang that this will resonant well with
>  > the
>  > >>  > >  fiancee.
>  > >>  > >
>  > >>  > >  Anyway, I proceed to call her after I buy it and she starts
>  > crying
>  > >>  > >  because I got rid of the truck.  She's a bit emotional too
>  > >>  > sometimes.
>  > >>  > >  Please don't get the wrong idea, she's great, but emotional
>  > about
>  > >>  > >  things sometimes.
>  > >>  > >
>  > >>  > >  Let me tell you a little bit more about the car - it's
>  > unbelievably
>  > >>  > >  fast.  I don't know the stats, but the car has some sort of
>  > mod
>  > >>  > chip in
>  > >>  > >  it that pushes it to 305 HP.  It's a five speed ass haulin'
>  > trip to
>  > >>  > the
>  > >>  > >  hospital then to jail for wreckless driving.  I admit that
>  > I'm a
>  > >>  > freak
>  > >>  > >  for speed sometimes.  This is without doubt the fastest car
>  > I've
>  > >>  > ever
>  > >>  > >  been in.  Anyway, it's a cool little thing with all of the
>  > bells and
>  > >>  > >  whistles.
>  > >>  > >
>  > >>  > >  We're not going to have any children soon, so that not an
>  > issue, but
>  > >>  > >  she did say that she thought I was going to get something more
>  > >>  > "yuppie"
>  > >>  > >  - like an SUV or BMW or something like that.
>  > >>  > >
>  > >>  > >  Anyway, that's the boner.  I think I'm going to take the car
>  > back
>  > >>  > >  tomorrow morning and get the truck back. Any comments from my
>  > >>  > friends
>  > >>  > >  on the list?
>  > >>  > >
>  > >>  > >  - Matt Small
>  > >>  > >
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