EXACTLY what Dana said.

I know lots of people who are very happy in relationships that I think are entirely disfunctional and unhealthy.  what I think matters naught if they are truly happy.
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: dana tierney
  To: CF-Community
  Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 4:20 PM
  Subject: Re:I think I'm in trouble

  If you are happy that is what matters :) I still think it's a red flag, but that is because it would be for *me*.... lol. Seriously, I hope you guys are very happy.

  Dana

  >OK...
  >
  >We're talking about one issue here- she got upset when I didn't let her
  >in on the decision making time here.
  >Yes, you're right, it is a control issue.  She's likes to be in
  >control, but she's not a control freak.
  >
  >What the entire situation boiled down to was:
  >I'm in a relationship that is in transition from a unmarried couple to
  >a committed marriage.  I was thinking in the unmarried couple phase,
  >she in the committed marriage phase.  Neither is completely wrong nor
  >right.
  >
  >I'm smart enough to know that I really should have been more thoughtful
  >when choosing a new major vehicle for us.  In November, we will be
  >combining our finances so we can maximize our spending and saving
  >abilities, and this affects that part of our relationship.
  >
  >However, on the flip side, she should have been more willing to see the
  >vehicle before she completely disregarded it as a viable alternative to
  >the large 4x4 pickup that I have been driving for the past year.  The
  >truck was great, utility-wise, but it was a gas hog and was becoming
  >increasingly uncomfortable to drive on the long drive to work every
  >day.  Plus, it had 173000 miles on it when I traded it in - it was time
  >to get rid of it before the problems started 'nickle and diming' me to
  >death.
  >
  >So I had justification for getting a new vehicle and I actually chose a
  >very nice vehicle, so I am right in this regard.  I should have talked
  >about this situation with her before I made the purchase so I could get
  >her input, like any good partnership would do, love or business. She is
  >right in this regard.
  >
  >There are always some control issues in any marriage - both parties
  >want to be heard and should be heard, but everybody needs some measure
  >of independence at some point.
  >
  >This was a learning lesson for both of us - I could have avoided the
  >whole situation had I handled it better, and she could have talked to
  >me before she became angry.
  >
  >I'm still getting married to the wonderful girl, and we're both anxious
  >to put this behind us.
  >
  >In other news, I'm interviewing with Microsoft as well as a company in
  >Baltimore - I might be seeing some of you sometime in the DC area!
  >Maybe Tim and I can race!
  >
  >- Matt Small
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >On Tuesday, December 30, 2003, at 06:19 PM, dana tierney wrote:
  >
  >> I sense major control issues, personally. But maybe he likes it that
  >> way...
  >> :::shrug:: there are some things some people are not ready to hear,
  >> and I have said my bit.
  >>
  >> Matt, I hope it all works out for you.
  >>
  >> Dana
  >>
  >> >Hey Tim,
  >> >
  >> >"so screwed" can be a very good thing! ;-)
  >> >
  >> >but I presume you mean it the *other* way -
  >> >just curious why if ya don't mind me asking?
  >> >
  >> >-Ben
  >> >
  >> >
  >> >>Wow you're so screwed if you marry this chick.
  >> >>
  >> >>And it's really not way faster, I would be glad to prove it when
  >> ever you
  >> >>feel like coming up to dc.
  >> >>  -----Original Message-----
  >> >>  From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >> >>  Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 3:45 PM
  >> >>  To: CF-Community
  >> >>  Subject: Re: I think I'm in trouble
  >> >>
  >> >>
  >> >>  OK everyone, I have a lot of answers straight from the source...
  >> >>
  >> >>  1)  She's upset because I made a major purchase without consulting
  >> her.
  >> >>    To my credit, I have been telling her that I wanted something
  >> new, but
  >> >>  I didn't find anything until I saw this Mustang.
  >> >>
  >> >>  2) She would not have been mad if I had bought something sensible,
  >> just
  >> >>  a bit annoyed that I had not included her.  This is not because she
  >> >>  wants to dicate things to me, it's because if I had been thinking
  >> about
  >> >>  what is good for us rather than me.
  >> >>
  >> >>  3) I was wrong, I will admit it.
  >> >>
  >> >>  4) She told me that if I wanted the car, I could keep it if it was
  >> what
  >> >>  I wanted, and she meant it.
  >> >>
  >> >>  5) We tried to return the vehicle.  There is no 72 hours right of
  >> >>  rescission on automobiles.
  >> >>
  >> >>  5) We were going to trade it for something else (the dealer gave us
  >> >>  this choice) but there was nothing else in my price range that I
  >> liked.
  >> >>
  >> >>  6) We've decided to keep it and sell it outright.  I feel that I
  >> can
  >> >>  get at least what I put into the vehicle since it's below blue
  >> book.
  >> >>
  >> >>  7) I'm taking her out tonight to Carraba's for some delicious
  >> mussels.
  >> >>
  >> >>  8) She's a wonderful, understanding person.  She was just extremely
  >> >>  upset that I did this without her input.
  >> >>
  >> >>  9) I actually think she likes the car, now that she's seen it, and
  >> she
  >> >>  will like it more after I take her out in it tonight.
  >> >>
  >> >>  10)  Thank for your input.
  >> >>
  >> >>  11)  This car is WAY faster than Tim's.
  >> >>
  >> >>  - Matt Small
  >> >>
  >> >>  On Monday, December 29, 2003, at 11:20 AM, Andre Turrettini wrote:
  >> >>
  >> >>  > This is true.  Matt, Can you give us more insight into her stong
  >> >>  > response?
  >> >>  > DRE
  >> >>  >
  >> >>  > -----Original Message-----
  >> >>  > From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >> >>  > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 8:18 AM
  >> >>  > To: CF-Community
  >> >>  > Subject: Re:I think I'm in trouble
  >> >>  >
  >> >>  > He's right tho, if my SO tried to dictate the car I could buy I
  >> would
  >> >>  > run
  >> >>  > like hell in the other direction. Unless he was buying it for
  >> me; at
  >> >>  > that
  >> >>  > point he deserves some say. Sorry Matt but imho this is a major
  >> red
  >> >>  > flag
  >> >>  > which you ignore at your peril.
  >> >>  >
  >> >>  > Dana
  >> >>  >
  >> >>  > >Mike,
  >> >>  > >  You're either single or have the most tolerant wife on the
  >> planet!
  >> >>  > >"perhaps the marriage is just not meant to be"... you're
  >> killing me,
  >> >>  > Man.
  >> >>  > >
  >> >>  > >~Simon
  >> >>  > >
  >> >>  > >Simon Horwith
  >> >>  > >CTO, Etrilogy Ltd.
  >> >>  > >Member of Team Macromedia
  >> >>  > >Macromedia Certified Instructor
  >> >>  > >Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
  >> >>  > >Certified Flash MX Developer
  >> >>  > >CFDJList - List Administrator
  >> >>  > >http://www.how2cf.com/
  >> >>  > >
  >> >>  > >  -----Original Message-----
  >> >>  > >  From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >> >>  > >  Sent: 29 December 2003 15:23
  >> >>  > >  To: CF-Community
  >> >>  > >  Subject: RE: I think I'm in trouble
  >> >>  > >
  >> >>  > >
  >> >>  > >  Keep the car, give it a name, add nitrous, flourescent
  >> lights, a
  >> >>  > tricked
  >> >>  > >  out odometer and racing seats. Put a big sticker on the back
  >> >>  > windshield
  >> >>  > >  indicating you are part of a street racing team.
  >> >>  > >
  >> >>  > >  What was the name of the car Will Farrell's character drove
  >> in Old
  >> >>  > >  School? If your wife can't deal with you having a cool ride,
  >> which
  >> >>  > is a
  >> >>  > >  part of your identify, perhaps the marriage is just not meant
  >> to be.
  >> >>  > >  Imagine what life will be like in 20 years when she becomes
  >> >>  > hysterical
  >> >>  > >  over a bunch of doylies over or something - you do not want
  >> that.
  >> >>  > It's
  >> >>  > >  going to be lemonade and cucumber sandwiches instead of beer
  >> and
  >> >>  > chicken
  >> >>  > >  wings, and that ain't right. Put your foot down and keep your
  >> >>  > dignity.
  >> >>  > >
  >> >>  > >  M
  >> >>  > >
  >> >>  > >  -----Original Message-----
  >> >>  > >  From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >> >>  > >  Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 11:43 PM
  >> >>  > >  To: CF-Community
  >> >>  > >  Subject: I think I'm in trouble
  >> >>  > >
  >> >>  > >  I pulled a boner today.
  >> >>  > >
  >> >>  > >  I'm in the market for a new vehicle, since the truck that I'm
  >> >>  > driving,
  >> >>  > >  while good looking and well running, has 173,000 miles on
  >> it.  It's
  >> >>  > a
  >> >>  > >  1995 Chevy Silverado, 4x4. My fiancee loves the thing, thinks
  >> it's
  >> >>  > the
  >> >>  > >  manliest truck on this earth. For the record, she's 23, I'm
  >> 31, we
  >> >>  > >  don't live together, and she's never had a FT job before
  >> since she
  >> >>  > just
  >> >>  > >  graduated Grad School with an MBA. She's a lovely girl, just a
  >> >>  > little
  >> >>  > >  idealistic sometimes due to youth.
  >> >>  > >
  >> >>  > >  So I go out today, just browsing and this car catches my eye
  >> - it'
  >> >>  > s a
  >> >>  > >  2001 Mustang GT.  Worse yet, it's a Mustang GT Bullitt - a
  >> Steve
  >> >>  > >  McQueen style race car. So I test drive it, am unnaturally
  >> scared to
  >> >>  > >  death of it, and then buy it.  I figure since it's only got
  >> 38,000
  >> >>  > on
  >> >>  > >  the odometer, that it will get getter mileage than the giant
  >> truck,
  >> >>  > and
  >> >>  > >  that she also has a Mustang that this will resonant well with
  >> the
  >> >>  > >  fiancee.
  >> >>  > >
  >> >>  > >  Anyway, I proceed to call her after I buy it and she starts
  >> crying
  >> >>  > >  because I got rid of the truck.  She's a bit emotional too
  >> >>  > sometimes.
  >> >>  > >  Please don't get the wrong idea, she's great, but emotional
  >> about
  >> >>  > >  things sometimes.
  >> >>  > >
  >> >>  > >  Let me tell you a little bit more about the car - it's
  >> unbelievably
  >> >>  > >  fast.  I don't know the stats, but the car has some sort of
  >> mod
  >> >>  > chip in
  >> >>  > >  it that pushes it to 305 HP.  It's a five speed ass haulin'
  >> trip to
  >> >>  > the
  >> >>  > >  hospital then to jail for wreckless driving.  I admit that
  >> I'm a
  >> >>  > freak
  >> >>  > >  for speed sometimes.  This is without doubt the fastest car
  >> I've
  >> >>  > ever
  >> >>  > >  been in.  Anyway, it's a cool little thing with all of the
  >> bells and
  >> >>  > >  whistles.
  >> >>  > >
  >> >>  > >  We're not going to have any children soon, so that not an
  >> issue, but
  >> >>  > >  she did say that she thought I was going to get something more
  >> >>  > "yuppie"
  >> >>  > >  - like an SUV or BMW or something like that.
  >> >>  > >
  >> >>  > >  Anyway, that's the boner.  I think I'm going to take the car
  >> back
  >> >>  > >  tomorrow morning and get the truck back. Any comments from my
  >> >>  > friends
  >> >>  > >  on the list?
  >> >>  > >
  >> >>  > >  - Matt Small
  >> >>  > >
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