<g> I read this answer right after retrieving a long series of messages from someone on my answering machine.  I uh, probably am in no position to offer relationship advice :) Nuff said.

Dana

> EXACTLY what Dana said.
>
> I know lots of people who are very happy in relationships that I think
> are entirely disfunctional and unhealthy.  what I think matters naught
> if they are truly happy.
  
> ----- Original Message -----
  
> From: dana tierney
  
> To: CF-Community
  
> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 4:20 PM
  
> Subject: Re:I think I'm in trouble
>
>
  
> If you are happy that is what matters :) I still think it's a red flag,
> but that is because it would be for *me*.... lol. Seriously, I hope
> you guys are very happy.
>
  
> Dana
>
  
> >OK...
  
> >
  
> >We're talking about one issue here- she got upset when I didn't let
> her
  
> >in on the decision making time here.
  
> >Yes, you're right, it is a control issue.  She's likes to be in
  
> >control, but she's not a control freak.
  
> >
  
> >What the entire situation boiled down to was:
  
> >I'm in a relationship that is in transition from a unmarried couple
> to
  
> >a committed marriage.  I was thinking in the unmarried couple phase,
>
  
> >she in the committed marriage phase.  Neither is completely wrong nor
>
  
> >right.
  
> >
  
> >I'm smart enough to know that I really should have been more
> thoughtful
  
> >when choosing a new major vehicle for us.  In November, we will be
  
> >combining our finances so we can maximize our spending and saving
  
> >abilities, and this affects that part of our relationship.
  
> >
  
> >However, on the flip side, she should have been more willing to see
> the
  
> >vehicle before she completely disregarded it as a viable alternative
> to
  
> >the large 4x4 pickup that I have been driving for the past year.  The
>
  
> >truck was great, utility-wise, but it was a gas hog and was becoming
>
  
> >increasingly uncomfortable to drive on the long drive to work every
  
> >day.  Plus, it had 173000 miles on it when I traded it in - it was
> time
  
> >to get rid of it before the problems started 'nickle and diming' me
> to
  
> >death.
  
> >
  
> >So I had justification for getting a new vehicle and I actually chose
> a
  
> >very nice vehicle, so I am right in this regard.  I should have
> talked
  
> >about this situation with her before I made the purchase so I could
> get
  
> >her input, like any good partnership would do, love or business. She
> is
  
> >right in this regard.
  
> >
  
> >There are always some control issues in any marriage - both parties
  
> >want to be heard and should be heard, but everybody needs some
> measure
  
> >of independence at some point.
  
> >
  
> >This was a learning lesson for both of us - I could have avoided the
>
  
> >whole situation had I handled it better, and she could have talked to
>
  
> >me before she became angry.
  
> >
  
> >I'm still getting married to the wonderful girl, and we're both
> anxious
  
> >to put this behind us.
  
> >
  
> >In other news, I'm interviewing with Microsoft as well as a company
> in
  
> >Baltimore - I might be seeing some of you sometime in the DC area!
  
> >Maybe Tim and I can race!
  
> >
  
> >- Matt Small
  
> >
  
> >
  
> >
  
> >
  
> >
  
> >On Tuesday, December 30, 2003, at 06:19 PM, dana tierney wrote:
  
> >
  
> >> I sense major control issues, personally. But maybe he likes it
> that
  
> >> way...
  
> >> :::shrug:: there are some things some people are not ready to hear,
>
  
> >> and I have said my bit.
  
> >>
  
> >> Matt, I hope it all works out for you.
  
> >>
  
> >> Dana
  
> >>
  
> >> >Hey Tim,
  
> >> >
  
> >> >"so screwed" can be a very good thing! ;-)
  
> >> >
  
> >> >but I presume you mean it the *other* way -
  
> >> >just curious why if ya don't mind me asking?
  
> >> >
  
> >> >-Ben
  
> >> >
  
> >> >
  
> >> >>Wow you're so screwed if you marry this chick.
  
> >> >>
  
> >> >>And it's really not way faster, I would be glad to prove it when
>
  
> >> ever you
  
> >> >>feel like coming up to dc.
  
> >> >>  -----Original Message-----
  
> >> >>  From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
> >> >>  Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 3:45 PM
  
> >> >>  To: CF-Community
  
> >> >>  Subject: Re: I think I'm in trouble
  
> >> >>
  
> >> >>
  
> >> >>  OK everyone, I have a lot of answers straight from the source...
>
  
> >> >>
  
> >> >>  1)  She's upset because I made a major purchase without
> consulting
  
> >> her.
  
> >> >>    To my credit, I have been telling her that I wanted something
>
  
> >> new, but
  
> >> >>  I didn't find anything until I saw this Mustang.
  
> >> >>
  
> >> >>  2) She would not have been mad if I had bought something
> sensible,
  
> >> just
  
> >> >>  a bit annoyed that I had not included her.  This is not because
> she
  
> >> >>  wants to dicate things to me, it's because if I had been
> thinking
  
> >> about
  
> >> >>  what is good for us rather than me.
  
> >> >>
  
> >> >>  3) I was wrong, I will admit it.
  
> >> >>
  
> >> >>  4) She told me that if I wanted the car, I could keep it if it
> was
  
> >> what
  
> >> >>  I wanted, and she meant it.
  
> >> >>
  
> >> >>  5) We tried to return the vehicle.  There is no 72 hours right
> of
  
> >> >>  rescission on automobiles.
  
> >> >>
  
> >> >>  5) We were going to trade it for something else (the dealer
> gave us
  
> >> >>  this choice) but there was nothing else in my price range that
> I
  
> >> liked.
  
> >> >>
  
> >> >>  6) We've decided to keep it and sell it outright.  I feel that
> I
  
> >> can
  
> >> >>  get at least what I put into the vehicle since it's below blue
>
  
> >> book.
  
> >> >>
  
> >> >>  7) I'm taking her out tonight to Carraba's for some delicious
  
> >> mussels.
  
> >> >>
  
> >> >>  8) She's a wonderful, understanding person.  She was just
> extremely
  
> >> >>  upset that I did this without her input.
  
> >> >>
  
> >> >>  9) I actually think she likes the car, now that she's seen it,
> and
  
> >> she
  
> >> >>  will like it more after I take her out in it tonight.
  
> >> >>
  
> >> >>  10)  Thank for your input.
  
> >> >>
  
> >> >>  11)  This car is WAY faster than Tim's.
  
> >> >>
  
> >> >>  - Matt Small
  
> >> >>
  
> >> >>  On Monday, December 29, 2003, at 11:20 AM, Andre Turrettini
> wrote:
  
> >> >>
  
> >> >>  > This is true.  Matt, Can you give us more insight into her
> stong
  
> >> >>  > response?
  
> >> >>  > DRE
  
> >> >>  >
  
> >> >>  > -----Original Message-----
  
> >> >>  > From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
> >> >>  > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 8:18 AM
  
> >> >>  > To: CF-Community
  
> >> >>  > Subject: Re:I think I'm in trouble
  
> >> >>  >
  
> >> >>  > He's right tho, if my SO tried to dictate the car I could buy
> I
  
> >> would
  
> >> >>  > run
  
> >> >>  > like hell in the other direction. Unless he was buying it for
>
  
> >> me; at
  
> >> >>  > that
  
> >> >>  > point he deserves some say. Sorry Matt but imho this is a
> major
  
> >> red
  
> >> >>  > flag
  
> >> >>  > which you ignore at your peril.
  
> >> >>  >
  
> >> >>  > Dana
  
> >> >>  >
  
> >> >>  > >Mike,
  
> >> >>  > >  You're either single or have the most tolerant wife on the
>
  
> >> planet!
  
> >> >>  > >"perhaps the marriage is just not meant to be"... you're
  
> >> killing me,
  
> >> >>  > Man.
  
> >> >>  > >
  
> >> >>  > >~Simon
  
> >> >>  > >
  
> >> >>  > >Simon Horwith
  
> >> >>  > >CTO, Etrilogy Ltd.
  
> >> >>  > >Member of Team Macromedia
  
> >> >>  > >Macromedia Certified Instructor
  
> >> >>  > >Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
  
> >> >>  > >Certified Flash MX Developer
  
> >> >>  > >CFDJList - List Administrator
  
> >> >>  > >http://www.how2cf.com/
  
> >> >>  > >
  
> >> >>  > >  -----Original Message-----
  
> >> >>  > >  From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
> >> >>  > >  Sent: 29 December 2003 15:23
  
> >> >>  > >  To: CF-Community
  
> >> >>  > >  Subject: RE: I think I'm in trouble
  
> >> >>  > >
  
> >> >>  > >
  
> >> >>  > >  Keep the car, give it a name, add nitrous, flourescent
  
> >> lights, a
  
> >> >>  > tricked
  
> >> >>  > >  out odometer and racing seats. Put a big sticker on the
> back
  
> >> >>  > windshield
  
> >> >>  > >  indicating you are part of a street racing team.
  
> >> >>  > >
  
> >> >>  > >  What was the name of the car Will Farrell's character
> drove
  
> >> in Old
  
> >> >>  > >  School? If your wife can't deal with you having a cool
> ride,
  
> >> which
  
> >> >>  > is a
  
> >> >>  > >  part of your identify, perhaps the marriage is just not
> meant
  
> >> to be.
  
> >> >>  > >  Imagine what life will be like in 20 years when she
> becomes
  
> >> >>  > hysterical
  
> >> >>  > >  over a bunch of doylies over or something - you do not
> want
  
> >> that.
  
> >> >>  > It's
  
> >> >>  > >  going to be lemonade and cucumber sandwiches instead of
> beer
  
> >> and
  
> >> >>  > chicken
  
> >> >>  > >  wings, and that ain't right. Put your foot down and keep
> your
  
> >> >>  > dignity.
  
> >> >>  > >
  
> >> >>  > >  M
  
> >> >>  > >
  
> >> >>  > >  -----Original Message-----
  
> >> >>  > >  From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
> >> >>  > >  Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 11:43 PM
  
> >> >>  > >  To: CF-Community
  
> >> >>  > >  Subject: I think I'm in trouble
  
> >> >>  > >
  
> >> >>  > >  I pulled a boner today.
  
> >> >>  > >
  
> >> >>  > >  I'm in the market for a new vehicle, since the truck that
> I'm
  
> >> >>  > driving,
  
> >> >>  > >  while good looking and well running, has 173,000 miles on
>
  
> >> it.  It's
  
> >> >>  > a
  
> >> >>  > >  1995 Chevy Silverado, 4x4. My fiancee loves the thing,
> thinks
  
> >> it's
  
> >> >>  > the
  
> >> >>  > >  manliest truck on this earth. For the record, she's 23,
> I'm
  
> >> 31, we
  
> >> >>  > >  don't live together, and she's never had a FT job before
  
> >> since she
  
> >> >>  > just
  
> >> >>  > >  graduated Grad School with an MBA. She's a lovely girl,
> just a
  
> >> >>  > little
  
> >> >>  > >  idealistic sometimes due to youth.
  
> >> >>  > >
  
> >> >>  > >  So I go out today, just browsing and this car catches my
> eye
  
> >> - it'
  
> >> >>  > s a
  
> >> >>  > >  2001 Mustang GT.  Worse yet, it's a Mustang GT Bullitt - a
>
  
> >> Steve
  
> >> >>  > >  McQueen style race car. So I test drive it, am unnaturally
>
  
> >> scared to
  
> >> >>  > >  death of it, and then buy it.  I figure since it's only
> got
  
> >> 38,000
  
> >> >>  > on
  
> >> >>  > >  the odometer, that it will get getter mileage than the
> giant
  
> >> truck,
  
> >> >>  > and
  
> >> >>  > >  that she also has a Mustang that this will resonant well
> with
  
> >> the
  
> >> >>  > >  fiancee.
  
> >> >>  > >
  
> >> >>  > >  Anyway, I proceed to call her after I buy it and she
> starts
  
> >> crying
  
> >> >>  > >  because I got rid of the truck.  She's a bit emotional
> too
  
> >> >>  > sometimes.
  
> >> >>  > >  Please don't get the wrong idea, she's great, but
> emotional
  
> >> about
  
> >> >>  > >  things sometimes.
  
> >> >>  > >
  
> >> >>  > >  Let me tell you a little bit more about the car - it's
  
> >> unbelievably
  
> >> >>  > >  fast.  I don't know the stats, but the car has some sort
> of
  
> >> mod
  
> >> >>  > chip in
  
> >> >>  > >  it that pushes it to 305 HP.  It's a five speed ass
> haulin'
  
> >> trip to
  
> >> >>  > the
  
> >> >>  > >  hospital then to jail for wreckless driving.  I admit that
>
  
> >> I'm a
  
> >> >>  > freak
  
> >> >>  > >  for speed sometimes.  This is without doubt the fastest
> car
  
> >> I've
  
> >> >>  > ever
  
> >> >>  > >  been in.  Anyway, it's a cool little thing with all of the
>
  
> >> bells and
  
> >> >>  > >  whistles.
  
> >> >>  > >
  
> >> >>  > >  We're not going to have any children soon, so that not an
>
  
> >> issue, but
  
> >> >>  > >  she did say that she thought I was going to get something
> more
  
> >> >>  > "yuppie"
  
> >> >>  > >  - like an SUV or BMW or something like that.
  
> >> >>  > >
  
> >> >>  > >  Anyway, that's the boner.  I think I'm going to take the
> car
  
> >> back
  
> >> >>  > >  tomorrow morning and get the truck back. Any comments from
> my
  
> >> >>  > friends
  
> >> >>  > >  on the list?
  
> >> >>  > >
  
> >> >>  > >  - Matt Small
  
> >> >>  > >
  
> >> >>  >   _____
  
> >> >>  <image.tiff>
  
> >> >>  >
  
> >> >>  >
  
> >> >>
  
> ><image.tiff>
  
> >>
  
> >>
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