so is London and probably Wales too :) I personally would love a good long visit to Ireland. I think you are probably right, but there is something to be said for seeing as much as you can see while you are there. Personally, I regret not getting to Italy or Spain in all the years I lived in Europe. But ya, if the goal is to get an idea what the countries are like, as opposed to getting through a checklist, you have a very good point.

Dana

>I would probably recommend that Ireland is a holiday in it's own right.
>Southern Ireland by bicycle is one thing I would like to do one day.
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: 15 January 2004 05:45
>  To: CF-Community
>  Subject: Re:I'm going to England!
>
>
>  This is a pretty good plan though it doesnt get you to Ireland. For scale,
>figure I got from London to Ayr (south of Glasgow) in a long day's drive.
>Highway miles. We got back to London from Glastonbury in an afternoon.  You
>want to be going through the Lake District in daylight or you will miss some
>scenery. The Scottish lowlands... aren't that special; think the Shire and
>you will pretty much have it. The highlands are worth at least a fast visit.
>What I don't know is where the ferries are to Ireland if you want to do
>that, but yeah, consider flying into one airport and out another.
>
>  Dana
>
>  >Depends on how much travelling you want to do.
>  >
>  >I would suggest doing a whistle stop tour of London....definetly do the
>  >london eye.
>  >
>  >Then get a car, head along the M3, A30 via Stonehenge, up to Glastonbury,
>  >into Bath (where I live) cut across to Cardiff, head north via Merthyr
>  >Tydfil (sp), head to the northern coast of Wales (Llandudnod), Head to
>the
>  >midlands (no reason),
>  >
>  >Please note you are missing out on Devon and Cornwall to a certain
>extent.
>  >
>  >Somebody take over here!
>  >
>  >Head north, see the Angel of the North. Sleep with a slapper (just go out
>in
>  >Wakefield on a Friday or Saturday night :P ). Get to Blackpool. Scare
>  >yourself on the Pepsi Max. Stay at or near the North Pier. The place is a
>  >hen and stag party magnet, so go out dressed as texans and watch those
>girls
>  >come flocking in.  It's the 'nicer' end of town.
>  >
>  >Eventually arrive at Edinburough, head somewhere wild, shoot a stag, fish
>  >some salmon from a salmon farm :), head south, Visit York, then into the
>  >whetlands of Norfolk. Rent a boat
>  >
>  >Back to London
>  >
>  >
>  >TADAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>  >  -----Original Message-----
>  >  From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >  Sent: 14 January 2004 15:54
>  >  To: CF-Community
>  >  Subject: RE: I'm going to England!
>  >
>  >
>  >  Unfortunately, we'll only be there 8 days with 2 days travel time for a
>  >  total of 10 days.  We want to start out in England, probably outside of
>  >  London, or would London be a good place to stay.  My brother and I
>aren't
>  >  real artsy, so we're not going to want to visit art galleries or
>museums.
>  >  We both like castles.  We like beer......a lot.  We're also big into
>  >  scenery.  Would it be possible to do a circuit of England, Ireland &
>  >  Scotland in that period of time, or would our time be better spent
>  >  concentrating on one area.  You've got to understand that I'm an
>American
>  >  whose never stepped outside the country (not even to Mexico though I
>live
>  >in
>  >  Texas) and I'm not sure of the scale of things.
>  >
>  >  --
>  >  marlon
>  >
>  >
>  >  "And Bobby you are right, I am being selfish, but the last time I
>checked,
>  >  we don't have a whole lot of songs that feature the cowbell!"
>  >
>  >
>  >  -----Original Message-----
>  >  From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >  Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:18 AM
>  >  To: CF-Community
>  >  Subject: RE: I'm going to England!
>  >
>  >  there are so many great things to do.  How long are you going to be
>here?
>  >  There are a lot of London things to do - you could easily fill a couple
>  >  weeks there alone.  I like Scotland - Edinburgh is fab.  Cork (Ireland)
>is
>  >a
>  >  nice place to drink.  You could always take a train from London to
>Paris
>  >and
>  >  spend a day or two (or more) there for very cheap as well).  There are
>so
>  >  many options.  Let me know what you're most interested in doing,
>spending,
>  >  and your timings and I'll gladly give you some advice ;)
>  >
>  >  ~Simon
>  >
>  >  Simon Horwith
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>  >
>  >    -----Original Message-----
>  >    From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >    Sent: 12 January 2004 19:57
>  >    To: CF-Community
>  >    Subject: I'm going to England!
>  >
>  >    My Brother called me up yesterday and asked me if I've ever wanted to
>go
>  >  to
>  >    England.  I said yeah.  He said that he's got enough flight miles to
>go
>  >    there and back 5 times.  He said he's always wanted to go and thought
>  >that
>  >    we'd have the most fun going together.  Damn what a cool brother :-)
>  >
>  >    Anyway, I know some of you people are from "across the pond" so I was
>  >    wondering if you had some "must go" destinations in mind.  We'd like
>to
>  >go
>  >    to England, Ireland, and Scotland.  We like to do some pub hopping,
>  >maybe
>  >    take in some castles, and whatever else might be good to see.
>  >
>  >    Thanks
>  >
>  >    Marlon
>  >
>
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