> >
> > Ok, fine, some PCs are completely upgradable.
>
> I've left both of your quotes there - your sweeping statements are the
> ones which blow holes in your statements!
Huh?
>
> Like saying the Xbox isn't popular when it's not AS popular as the
> PS2 -
> you dumped that point quickly, didn't you? :P
There nothing else to discuss. The PS2 has sold far, far more than the XBox. What else is there?
>
> > I never said it was out of date. I said that there will come
> > a point in time where the Phantom's upgradability options
> > will be quite limited, due to the progress of PC technology.
>
> So, when you said this:
>
> > Besides, by next year, it'll be totally obsolete (it already
> > sorta is; Athlon XPs are end of life, and the new Geforce is
> > coming out pretty soon). Since PC games just keep
> > progressing onwards in regards to using new technologies,
> > that Phantom is going to look mighty bad after awhile.
>
> You didn't actually mean that it's already out of date by saying "it
> already sorta is"? Or was that some other [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No contradiction there. The Phantom is using some soon to be end of life parts.
>
> > Assuming, of course, that the Phantom is upgradable.
>
> It's a PC - rip out the motherboard and put in another one!
Which motherboard would that be? Did you look at the pictures in their forum? That ain't no standard ATX back panel you're dealing with...
>
> > Who said top of the line? Why do I need a top of the line
> > processor for?
>
> Your yourself said that the Phantom has built-in obsolecense (in
> different words), so you're buying obsolete technology - you're buying
> exactly what you're complaining that the Phantom has - obolete
> hardware!
No, I said IN TIME it'll be obsolete.
> > I haven't been moaning about anything. You, on the other
> > hand, have your panties in a bunch.
>
> Fine, you're right - you've argued that the Phantom is useless as it
> won't be able to run the newer games when they come out, but also that
> it's completely useless as it won't run the incredibly old games
No, I said that running ALL PC games is, in fact, impossible.
>
> Yes, I'm the one who has stuck to a single line of argument and not
> changed tack 5 times every time someone has proved my point wrong...
What points have I been proved wrong on?
Let's see:
Fact: The Phantom as yet is not available to the general public.
Fact: The Phantom is going to use PC technology to play PC games. PC game minimum system requirements change all the time. Thus, as time progresses, the Phantom will not be able to keep up with new games.
Fact: The Phantom is hella expensive, relative to other consoles.
Fact: The Phantom requires a broadband connection, of which only a few people have.
Fact: A Phantom owner would have to rebuy any existing games he/she has for their PC if they want to play it on the Phantom, assuming that it is available for the Phantom.
Fact: The Phantom is being released by company with absolutely no track record in ANYTHING. At least everyone knew who Sony was when the PS1 came out.
So, if you want, we can discuss just these points, and heck, you can try to disprove me on every one of these points.
>
> You remind me of someone we used to have on a forum I post on - every
> time someone proved his point wrong, he'd change his argument
> COMPLETELY
Haven't changed it one bit. You do like to bring up lots of irrelevant points though. Say, who brought up little Johnny?
> > Lots of people don't. I don't. I haven't bought a console in
> years.
> That's because a lot of people buy their computer for home use - which
> includes games - and any new machine will have XP on them, so they're
> running exactly the same OS as the Phantom, and most probably similar
> hardware specs
WinXP Embedded != WinXP Home != WinXP Professional.
>
> > Sure. I guess you agree with me then that the Phantom is
> > overkill then for little Johnny.
>
> If you take that attitude, then a PS2, Xbox and GameCube are overkill
> for little Johnny! In fact, if I was to be a parent, I'd give them a
> good book as children these days aren't reading enough!
I didn't take that attitude. You did. I'm just agreeing with you.
>
> > Nope. So then, who is the Phantom for? You said that little
> > Johnny gets to have a NES/Atari 2600, and the rabid fans want
> > to get something more powerful than the Phantom.
>
> Same thing the PS2, Xbox and GameCube are for! Game players who
> want to
> turn on a machine and just play a game - the "rabid" gamers will
> have a
> tricked out piece of hardware that set them back thousands...
But you can't just play a game with the Phantom. You need to download the game first...
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