Sex is fun, and a natural part of mammalian behaviour. It is not a vice, or
something to be ashamed of.  Abortion (where a mother purposly kills her
unborn offspring)  -- is not a natural method for mothers to control their
reproductive process.  I am not talking about infanticide (like lions)  --
or trauma induced abortions here.


>>I don't like abortion, but in a sexually promiscuous society it seems like
a necessary item.

Not at all, ever hear of the pill, or a rubber?

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 11:46 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: What country?

I dont' understand the viewpoints where he wants to promote sex but outlaw
abortion.

I don't like abortion, but in a sexually promiscuous society it seems like a
necessary item.

- Matt Small
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Angel Stewart
  To: CF-Community
  Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 11:22 AM
  Subject: RE: What country?

  Well...I wouldn't like to live there :)

  Most of those viewpoints seem rather short sighted.

  For example what if a species is introduced to your island from outside
  and turns your eco-system upside down? Still going to prevent hunting?

  Who's going to determine if a lawsuit is frivilous or not? You?

  Abortion is going to be illegal? What sort of women's rights are you
  going to have on this island?
  Will they all live in the kitchen to cook and clean for the men too?

  What about cloning? Going to allow that or not?

  Capital punishment is practiced regularly?
  How about public executions in the town square and burning at the stake?
  Gonna have that on the island as well?

  wow. Sounds like a cool place.

  -Gel

  -----Original Message-----
  From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Okay, I am gonna set up a paypal account to accept donations to build my
  own
  country. There will be a website. I will not be in charge of the
  country. It
  will be run by a three member panel consisting of at least one man and
  one
  woman elected  by majority vote of the population.

  More details to come.

  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >
  > Maybe I need to move. I'm looking for the following qualities
  > of a country and it's people. Anyone have any suggestions?
  >  
  > 1. No government -- religious intercourse (ie, In god we
  > trust, God Bless America, etc) 2. Sex is okay. Sex is funny
  > and not something to be hidden.
  > 3. It is not France.
  > 4. The people do not speak French, or have never been a French colony.
  > 5. There are more than two major political parties.(or one
  > masquerading as
  > two)
  > 6. Pot is legal.
  > 7. Handguns are illegal.
  > 8. Abortion is illegal (except for mommies health and
  > rape/incest of course) 9. Capital punishment is legal and
  > practiced regularly.
  > 10. Frivolous lawsuits are illegal.
  > 11. The environment matters.
  > 12. Hunting of wild animals is illegal, unless by painball
  > gun (okay, not
  > really)
  > 13. Catch/release fishing is okay.
  > 14. All nationalities/ethnicities/creeds are recognized as
  > one race, the human race.
  > 15. Those serving in the military can have a beer, no matter
  > their age.
  > 16. Hummers are outlawed. (The trucks of course, the other is
  > encouraged).

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