and an imaginary friend named Dave. Are they different, nope, they're both
imaginary.......
:)
--
marlon
"And Bobby you are right, I am being selfish, but the last time I checked,
we don't have a whole lot of songs that feature the cowbell!"
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 4:38 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Desperate times call for pig fat!
>
> I think it is the same god, just three wildly different
> interpretations. Like imagine God is the play "Macbeth", and
> Christians are actually my old college drama teacher who decided to do
> it all as a neo-futuristic kabuki character study and rewrite half the
> dialog. Interesting idea, same play, but ultimately very, very, very
> flawed.
>
> - Jim
>
> Michael Dinowitz wrote:
>
> >Of course. Christians believe that he's just on pause in his job as
> messiah
> >so my saying that he failed is correct from the Jewish side, but not the
> >Christian side. On the other hand, the need to accept Jesus to be 'saved'
> IS
> >correctly represented.
> >Point is, if it's all the same God then there would all be the same
> rules,
> >etc. There aren't.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>You do know that you aren't exactly representing the Christian and
> Muslim
> >>views correctly, right?
> >>
> >>Not that I particularly care.
> >>
> >>-Kevin
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 2:47 PM
> >>Subject: Re: Desperate times call for pig fat!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>But that's the thing, they're not the same God. Jews believe in a
> single
> >>>
> >>>
> >>God
> >>
> >>
> >>>who chose them to keep his laws. Jews hold that anyone can enter into
> >>>heaven.
> >>>Christians believe that God became human, was the messiah, lived among
> >>>humans, (did not bring the promised redemption as messiah), died and
> >>>
> >>>
> >rose
> >
> >
> >>>back to heaven. Only someone who has accepted this can go to heaven.
> >>>
> >>>
> >(i.e.
> >
> >
> >>>you have to accept Jesus to go to heaven).
> >>>A Jew (religious, that is) can never believe in the Christian God. A
> >>>Christian basically has to believe in the Jewish God as he's the root
> of
> >>>their God, even if they've 'changed' it some. Now I can claim that the
> >>>Muslim God withholds redemption only for Muslims but without a direct
> >>>reference I can't. I can claim a lot of stuff about the differences,
> but
> >>>
> >>>
> >I
> >
> >
> >>>wouln't. What I can say is that to be accepted to heaven you have to
> >>>
> >>>
> >>accept
> >>
> >>
> >>>Muhamed as the final prophet, etc. i.e. give up the laws that God gave
> >>>
> >>>
> >to
> >
> >
> >>>accept new ones. What Jew would believe that God screwed up and sent a
> >>>
> >>>
> >new
> >
> >
> >>>set of laws? What Christian would believe that God screwed up and sent
> a
> >>>
> >>>
> >>new
> >>
> >>
> >>>set of laws? What Muslim would believe that the laws of the Jews or
> >>>Christians are correct?
> >>>Bottom line is that there are major differences between each of the 3
> >>>
> >>>
> >>major
> >>
> >>
> >>>monotheistic religions and the blanket claim of "all the same God" is
> >>>patently false. It's said without thought of its full ramifications.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
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