dressing room.
- Jim
Michael Dinowitz wrote:
>So I'm stuck with the original Macbeth, the Christians have neo-futuristic
>kabuki and what do the Muslims have? Macbeth done to spaghetti western?
>Problem is, each feels his is the 'right' Macbeth and will not accept the
>Macbeth of the other as it invalidates their own.
>
>
>
>
>>I think it is the same god, just three wildly different
>>interpretations. Like imagine God is the play "Macbeth", and
>>Christians are actually my old college drama teacher who decided to do
>>it all as a neo-futuristic kabuki character study and rewrite half the
>>dialog. Interesting idea, same play, but ultimately very, very, very
>>flawed.
>>
>>- Jim
>>
>>Michael Dinowitz wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Of course. Christians believe that he's just on pause in his job as
>>>
>>>
>messiah
>
>
>>>so my saying that he failed is correct from the Jewish side, but not the
>>>Christian side. On the other hand, the need to accept Jesus to be 'saved'
>>>
>>>
>IS
>
>
>>>correctly represented.
>>>Point is, if it's all the same God then there would all be the same
>>>
>>>
>rules,
>
>
>>>etc. There aren't.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>You do know that you aren't exactly representing the Christian and
>>>>
>>>>
>Muslim
>
>
>>>>views correctly, right?
>>>>
>>>>Not that I particularly care.
>>>>
>>>>-Kevin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 2:47 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: Desperate times call for pig fat!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>But that's the thing, they're not the same God. Jews believe in a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>single
>
>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>God
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>who chose them to keep his laws. Jews hold that anyone can enter into
>>>>>heaven.
>>>>>Christians believe that God became human, was the messiah, lived among
>>>>>humans, (did not bring the promised redemption as messiah), died and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>rose
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>back to heaven. Only someone who has accepted this can go to heaven.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>(i.e.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>you have to accept Jesus to go to heaven).
>>>>>A Jew (religious, that is) can never believe in the Christian God. A
>>>>>Christian basically has to believe in the Jewish God as he's the root
>>>>>
>>>>>
>of
>
>
>>>>>their God, even if they've 'changed' it some. Now I can claim that the
>>>>>Muslim God withholds redemption only for Muslims but without a direct
>>>>>reference I can't. I can claim a lot of stuff about the differences,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>but
>
>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>I
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>wouln't. What I can say is that to be accepted to heaven you have to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>accept
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Muhamed as the final prophet, etc. i.e. give up the laws that God gave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>accept new ones. What Jew would believe that God screwed up and sent a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>new
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>set of laws? What Christian would believe that God screwed up and sent
>>>>>
>>>>>
>a
>
>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>new
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>set of laws? What Muslim would believe that the laws of the Jews or
>>>>>Christians are correct?
>>>>>Bottom line is that there are major differences between each of the 3
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>major
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>monotheistic religions and the blanket claim of "all the same God" is
>>>>>patently false. It's said without thought of its full ramifications.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
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