Jeez, I've just spent three months working on an app that is looking at a
large amount of page views and to get this news now is worrying. I dont have
to time to redo it all so it will have to be a case of suck it and see......

Thanks for the warning anyhows.

----- Original Message -----
From: "xing li" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Linux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: CF 5 Server error on RedHat 7.1


> I don't  think I was too clear on that point.
>
> The code, which is only a dozen or so, has been optimized and
> reoptimized to handle more 1 million page views from a single CF 5
> webserver on windows machine running on sql server. Switched to linux in
> hopes of even better performance but the linux version of CF is not even
> stable enough to survive hours of operations let alone a single day to
> see what it can handle.
>
> First tried CF linux with sql server and that didn't work. Thought maybe
> the sql odbc driver is not up to par so with went with mysql which is as
> native to linux as it can get so I figured the driver for it should be
> top notch. Turned out it didn't help since CF 5 was still core dumping.
> DB server was separate from the web server. Then went through the motion
> of reinstallation CF linux, making sure every single shared variable is
> locked, tested CF admin configuration to see if that helped, and
> basically anything I can think off. This continuing process went on for
> a month before I totally give up and have ported the app to php instead.
>
> Xing
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 14, 2002, at 01:55  AM, Douglas McKenzie wrote:
>
> > Xing,
> >
> > Are you saying that if CF on Linux is serving a million+ pages per day,
> > it
> > will crash and restart and theres nothing you can do about it?
> > Is it due to serving the pages or the db requests?
> >
> > Doug
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "xing li" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Linux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: CF 5 Server error on RedHat 7.1
> >
> >
> >> Jesse,
> >>
> >> The symptoms are exactly like the one described by Dane in the thread
> >> below with the exception that my setup was with mysql and also with sql
> >> server (tried both setup and the error persisted).
> >>
> >> The other thing I want to add to Dane's description is that the
> >> problems
> >> I have experienced will only expose itself when the traffic load exceed
> >> beyond some point. So in intranet situations or small websites where
> >> you
> >> do not have any real traffic to speak of I do not think this problem
> >> will show its ugly head which explain why a lot of the companies that
> >> use CF doesn't know about it since they will never experience it.  The
> >> CF was setup for a webserver with CF code all custom designed to server
> >> over well over 1 million dynamic CF pages per day. Windows version of
> >> CF
> >> 5 was able to handle it, barely, but Linux version doesn't even seem to
> >> be in the same league.
> >>
> >> Every possible configuration with the CF settings have been tried with
> >> no result to show for.
> >>
> >> Xing
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, March 12, 2002, at 06:41  PM, Jesse Noller wrote:
> >>
> >>> Xing:
> >>>
> >>> What issues *were* you seeing? I know many, many companies running CF5
> >>> without issue. I actually count on Sig11s and cores to be "out of the
> >>> norm". However, these can be typically debugged.
> >>>
> >>> -jesse noller
> >>> macromedia
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: xing li [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 9:26 PM
> >>>> To: CF-Linux
> >>>> Subject: Re: CF 5 Server error on RedHat 7.1
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I have personally given up CF on Linux because of the utter
> >>>> instability
> >>>> of CF under load with Linux and Allaire/Macromedia's failure
> >>>> to address
> >>>> the Linux issues.
> >>>>
> >>>> I can't exactly count on a software that core dumps without
> >>>> any errors
> >>>> thrown what so ever and with every "shared" memory locked
> >>>> down hard. I
> >>>> have had this problem since the beginning of CF 5 release with no
> >>>> solution found and patches to hope for.
> >>>>
> >>>> Windows CF got issues but no where as severe as the ones with Linux.
> >>>> Macromedia better ramp up the QA development cycle or they will lose
> >>>> customers and we really cant wait for version 6.0. Somebody
> >>>> need to get
> >>>> into Macromedia's head to launch 5.1.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sorry if this seems more like a rant than a solution to the
> >>>> problem but
> >>>> I can't take CF5 on Linux any further. At least throw a
> >>>> freaking error
> >>>> when you core dump! Heck, to have a RELEASE version core dump in any
> >>>> software as frequently as CF 5 for Linux is unbelievable.
> >>>>
> >>>> Xing
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tuesday, March 12, 2002, at 03:45  PM, Matthew Monahan wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Dane-
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have been having very similar problems.  Can you take a
> >>>> look at your
> >>>>> Apache access log and send over the http requests that match the cfm
> >>>>> pages causing restarts?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Matthew Monahan
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Dane Ensign [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:06 AM
> >>>>> To: CF-Linux
> >>>>> Subject: CF 5 Server error on RedHat 7.1
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *** CF server 5 and linux, mysterious error. ***
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  Our server is dying about every 2 -3 request, and
> >>>>>  completely restarting.
> >>>>>  Before everyone starts "lock this and that" read
> >>>>>  on.....
> >>>>>  CF 5 professional.
> >>>>>  Red hat 7.1
> >>>>>  PG and MySQL.
> >>>>>  SYMPTOMS:
> >>>>>  The error occurs in all applications on the
> >>>>>  server..... system wide.
> >>>>>  The error occurs in the CF administrator.
> >>>>>  There are no scheduled task on the machine.
> >>>>>  THe server is completely locked down on session and
> >>>>>  application variables as set in the CF administrator,
> >>>>>  with no site errors being thrown on account of lack of
> >>>>>  locks.) .... everything is locked.
> >>>>>  There seems to be no "order" to triggering or the
> >>>>>  error.
> >>>>>  CF administrator completely ignores "dont restart
> >>>>>  server on unresponsive request" directive. And
> >>>>>  restarts every time the error occurs.
> >>>>>  Apache is doing just fine, no errors, load tested and
> >>>>>  checks out great.
> >>>>>  We are pleading for one the MM engineers to pick up on
> >>>>>  this
> >>>>>  It seems that when one of the child threads dies(god
> >>>>>  knows why) its bringing down the parent too, resulting
> >>>>>  in app restarts.
> >>>>>  We have read everything here and on list archives on
> >>>>>  house of fusion, paying particular attention the
> >>>>>  comments by the posting (mm)Allaire engineer.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here are the errors:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> there's nothingin in the mail queue. Here are some of the
> >>>>>  errors from the
> >>>>>  logs.
> >>>>>  They are:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  in the application log:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  "Error","7175","03/07/02","15:25:33",,"xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, Mozilla/4.0
> >>>>>  (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; Q312461), The time
> >>>>>  taken to process
> >>>>>  your request has exceeded the allowable limit of 60 seconds.
> >>>>>  Please notify
> >>>>>  the server administrator (using the mail link below) that
> >>>>>  this error has
> >>>>>  occurred. <P>Note: You can override the request time limit
> >>>> by adding a
> >>>>>  'RequestTimeout' parameter to the URL used to request the
> >>>> page (e.g.
> >>>>>  page.cfm?RequestTimeout=500).<P><P> <P><P>Date/Time: Thu Mar
> >>>>>  7 15:25:33
> >>>>>  2002<BR>Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0;
> >>>>>  Q312461)<BR>Remote Address: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx<BR>Query String:
> >>>>>  cfasdebugsessionid=SKT:localhost:35303<P>"
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  in the server.log:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  "Fatal","7175","03/05/02","22:52:34",,"Caught a fatal signal (11) -
> >>>>>  Aborting"
> >>>>>  "Information","1024","03/05/02","22:52:35",,"The ColdFusion
> >>>>>  Application
> >>>>>  Server started.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  in the webserver.log:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  "Error",,"03/06/02","23:39:03",,"An error occurred while
> >>>> attempting to
> >>>>>  establish a connection to the server.<P> The most likely
> >>>> cause of this
> >>>>>  problem is that the server is not currently running.
> >>>> Verify that the
> >>>>>  server is running and restart it if necessary.  <P>Unix
> >>>> error number 2
> >>>>>  occurred: No such file or directory"
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  We are in need of a solution fast
> >>>>>  **Thank you in advance for any help that you can offer**
> >>>>>
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