It's unsupported*












*that was a joke. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonothon Ortiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 2:17 PM
> To: CF-Linux
> Subject: RE: Changing from Default to Apache Web Server
> 
> Heh...even the Cobalt (non-Sun), which is fairly similar to RedHat, had a
> small bump in the installation process. I'd be afraid of what the OS/X
> threw
> at ya tho.
> 
> I know it would be unsupported AND not functional AND NO ONE SHOULD TRY IT,
> but would you mind sharing the bumps and hiccups you encountered with OS/X?
> I'm curious as to the extent of the compatability.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:33 PM
> To: CF-Linux
> Subject: RE: Changing from Default to Apache Web Server
> 
> 
> Let me be clear Dick: He was talking about running this in a production
> environment.
> 
> I want to make it clear, Macromedia ONLY Supports Red Hat and SuSE linux,
> Solaris 7 and 8, and HP-UX and Windows as far as platforms go.
> 
> Installing it anywhere else constitutes a Hack, and a Kludge. Trust me,
> I've
> written enough documents on CF-Linux porting to know.
> 
> No matter how much you do, you /cannot/ make everything functional on an
> unsupported OS, period. There are too many moving parts.
> 
> I know, I *run* CFMX on OS/X for *fun*.
> 
> Jesse Noller
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Macromedia Server Development
> Unix/Linux "special guy"
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:29 PM
> > To: CF-Linux
> > Subject: RE: Changing from Default to Apache Web Server
> >
> > No, I'm calling running CFMX on an unsupported platform a kludge. It's
> how
> > I refer to everything not-supported.
> >
> > Jesse Noller
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Macromedia Server Development
> > Unix/Linux "special guy"
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:24 PM
> > > To: CF-Linux
> > > Subject: Re: Changing from Default to Apache Web Server
> > >
> > > On Monday, July 29, 2002, at 10:01 AM, Jesse Noller wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Jesse
> > >
> > > I can't let that go.
> > >
> > > Are you calling the MM CFMX Java code a kludge -- it runs on Mac OS X,
> > > untouched.
> > >
> > > The only modifications are replacement of the coldfusion shell script
> > > with one that doesn't use a Intel C++ program to start and stop CFMX.
> > >
> > > You must also change a few environment variables and parameters so
> that
> > > CFMX uses the Mac OS X JVM/JRE -- instead of the Intel-specific one
> > > installed as part of the CFMX installation
> > >
> > > Finally, 3rd-party jdbc drivers must be placed in where  Mac's Java
> can
> > > find them
> > >
> > > If the truth were told, MM would have a simpler, faster install on Mac
> > > OS X -- they would not need to install the JVM/JRE or even a Web
> > > Server -- those things come with every Mac OS X installation.
> > >
> > > Dick
> > >
> > >
> > > > Uh
> > > >
> > > > CFMX on OS/X is completely, totally, and not even remotely supported.
> > > > It is a kludge on you can do if you want, but Macromedia in NO WAY
> > > > supports it.
> > > >
> > > > Therefore, and Apache module on OS/X is N/A
> > > >
> > > > Jesse Noller
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Macromedia Server Development
> > > > Unix/Linux "special guy"
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Leon Oosterwijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > >> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 12:52 PM
> > > >> To: CF-Linux
> > > >> Subject: RE: Changing from Default to Apache Web Server
> > > >>
> > > >> Sorry for my ignorance, but am I understanding correctly that yes,
> > CFMX
> > > >> runs
> > > >> on OX/X but no, you can't use CFMX on OS/X with Apache?
> > > >>
> > > >> If this is the case, That would be a big deterrent from using OS/X
> to
> > > >> run
> > > >> CFMX. I'm sure the built-in webserver is nice and all, but most
> site
> > > >> would
> > > >> want to run production on something like apache. I currently do not
> > use
> > > >> os/x
> > > >> but have thought about switching.
> > > >>
> > > >> Sincerely,
> > > >>
> > > >> Leon Oosterwijk
> > > >> ISDN-NET Inc.
> > > >> (615) 221-4200
> > > >> http://www.isdn.net
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>> From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > >>> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:34 AM
> > > >>> To: CF-Linux
> > > >>> Subject: RE: Changing from Default to Apache Web Server
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Why not? Given the occasional need to customize/recompile
> > > >>> Apache? Are
> > > >>>> there
> > > >>>> any "state secrets" in there? The modules used to come with
> > > >>> source on
> > > >>>> Solaris, if I recall correctly. I realize that newer
> > > >>> version of Apache
> > > >>>> tend
> > > >>>> to use dynamically loaded modules, but there are enough
> > > >>> variations on
> > > >>>> Apache
> > > >>>> to warrant the distribution of the module source, I'd think.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> If this isn't going to happen, what would be the likelihood
> > > >>> that we could
> > > >>>> get an "unofficial" module build for Apache on OS X? After
> > > >>> all, several
> > > >>>> Macromedians are running CF MX on OS X using the CF MX web
> > > >>> server, right?
> > > >>>> Surely they'd like to be able to use a "real" web server?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I tried to push for release of the source code. After review,
> > > >>> we cannot release the source code to the modules, as there
> > > >>> are components in there which are "state secrets".
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Remember, CF no longer has it's own Apache modules, we use
> > > >>> JRun's which means is JRun says "No module for you" then we
> > > >>> get zero module.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> As I am one of the people running on OS/X, I would be tempted
> > > >>> to recompile the module, however, my time available for "Nice
> > > >>> to do Tasks" is about 0 until sometime in 2005.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Yes. There are enough Apache variations to warrant this. Will
> > > >>> the source code be released: Not at this time.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -jesse
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
> 
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