Dick-

        No one is asking or telling you to stop what you're doing, trust me, it has 
gotten plenty of attention, however, when individuals contact me, and email the lists, 
I have to, *have to* tell them it is completely unsupported.

I know, you want to run apache, however, internal spare cycles are very very few and 
far between, and therefore side projects are extremely low priority. If I happen to 
get a chance, I would gladly hand off an apache module for OS/X.

Jesse Noller
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Macromedia Server Development
Unix/Linux "special guy" 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 2:01 PM
> To: CF-Linux
> Subject: Re: Changing from Default to Apache Web Server
> 
> On Monday, July 29, 2002, at 10:37 AM, Dave Watts wrote:
> 
> >> Are you calling the MM CFMX Java code a kludge -- it runs on
> >> Mac OS X, untouched.
> >
> > In Jesse's defense, I think he's referring to the installation process.
> > I'm
> > sure that, if MM decides to devote the necessary resources, they could
> > easily release a version that installs cleanly, and even supports
> > Apache. I
> > think the only thing they wouldn't be able to easily resolve is the
> > Verity
> > support; I think that's out of their hands, really. Now, all you have
> > to do
> > is single-handedly convince MM that it's in their interest to do this. I
> > think that's where the problem begins.
> >
> 
> I'm just a nobody -- I have no entre to MM.  You've got the Director of
> Architecture at MM, the Unix/Linux "special guy" and several others at
> MM running on Mac OS X.
> 
> I don't have the time nor resources to build a business case for MM --
> besides, they would want to do their own, anyway.
> 
> With the port, and the articles, I have done as much as I can to promote
> a product (CFMX) and a platform (OS X) that I really believe in.
> 
> The reason that I originally asked about changing from the CFMX default
> server to Apache is simple:
> 
> The Apache Web server is integral to Mac OS X -- you can use it for
> personal web sharing, web development with PHP, Perl, Python, yadda,
> yadda, yadda,
> 
> I do most of my development in CF (soon to be CFMX).  For the first time
> I can do this locally on a Mac -- it is now as productive to develop in
> CFMX as in the other languages (above).
> 
> All I wanted to do was eliminate the need to run 2 web servers: CFMX
> Default and Apache.
> 
> I am not trying to undermine MM or get a production CFMX site going.
> However, sometimes it is useful to give out your IP address to a
> perspective client show them working or prototype examples of their
> app.  (Its also nice to show skeptics that CFMX runs, and runs well, on
> Mac OS X).
> 
> Maybe I just should just install Tomcat, immerse my self in Java
> education, and say "screw it" to all proprietary products!
> 
> -- seriously thinking about it -- it would give your (CF lists) ears a
> rest
> 
> Dick
> 
> 
> > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > http://www.figleaf.com/
> > voice: (202) 797-5496
> > fax: (202) 797-5444
> >
> 
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